Use this thread to keep a running list of duplicate credits — until we can delete or mark entities invalid, it might help to have all known dupes collected in one place. (Hopefully there's not already a thread for this... if so, just let this dupe sink to the bottom and disappear...)

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/29912-Random-House-of-Canada-Limited
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/29395-Random-House-Of-Canada-Limited

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47489-Cynthia-Connolly
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47492-Cynthia-Connolly

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47490-Leslie-Clague
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47493-Leslie-Clague

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47491-Sharon-Cheslow
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47494-Sharon-Cheslow

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/50349-Barry-Henssler (correct spelling)
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/29877-Barry-Hensler (misspelled)

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/48334-Raymond-Pettibon (correct spelling)
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/49651-Raymond-Pe (autocomplete snafu, created accidentally)

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/50507-William-Davenport (correct spelling)
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/50499-Willam-Davenport (autocomplete snafu, created accidentally)

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/30923-Penguin-Books-Ltd ("Ltd" without period)
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/34966-Penguin-Books-Ltd ("Ltd." with period)

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/31270-Penguin-Books-Canada-Ltd ("Ltd" without period)
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/34973-Penguin-Books-Canada-Ltd ("Ltd." with period)

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/26116-Houghton-Mifflin-Company
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/41315-Houghton-Mifflin-Company

and http://www.biblio.gs/credit/29891-Houghton-Miffling-Company

Little, Brown variations (not all dupes, obviously):

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/19573-Little-Brown

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/24553-Little-Brown-And-Company
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/25878-Little-Brown-and-Company
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/36922-Little-Brown-And-Company
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/21696-Little-Brown-Company
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/21771-Little-Brown-Co

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/22311-Little-Brown-Company-Inc
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/35512-Little-Brown-And-Company-Inc

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/25196-Little-Brown-Book-Group

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/35161-Little-Brown-Book-Group-Limited

There are quite a few Penguin-related entities in the DB but I think these two are the same thing:
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/19489-Penguin-Group
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/21283-The-Penguin-Group

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/26909-Publishers-Group-West
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/41127-Publishers-Group-West
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/41143-Publishers-Group-West

Faber & Faber:

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/21693-Faber-Faber
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/30672-Faber-And-Faber

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/22103-Faber-Faber-Ltd
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/23597-Faber-And-Faber-Limited
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/29841-Faber-and-Faber-Limited
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/30198-Faber-and-Faber-Ltd
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/30666-Faber-Faber-Limited
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/32864-Faber-And-Faber-Ltd

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/27414-Edgar-Allan-Poe
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/40976-Edgar-Allan-Poe

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/41261-David-Thompson
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/41265-David-Thompson

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/44824-Alberto-Moreno-Navarro
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/44825-Alberto-Moreno-Navarro

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/44828-Daniel-Carballido-Garcia
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/44830-Daniel-Carballido-Garcia

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/44836-Bytgraf-S-A
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/44837-Bytgraf-S-A

one more DCG: http://www.biblio.gs/credit/44832-Daniel-Carballido-Garcia

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/44833-Centro-Publicaciones-Expo-92
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/44834-Centro-Publicaciones-Expo-92

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47470-Adolfo-Cassan-Tachlitzky
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47471-Adolfo-Cassan-Tachlitzky

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47472-Merce-Piera
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47473-Merce-Piera

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47474-Roser-Alcaraz-Garcia
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47475-Roser-Alcaraz-Garcia

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47593-Dos-Dos-Serveis-Editorials-S-C-C-L
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47594-Dos-Dos-Serveis-Editorials-S-C-C-L

Also:
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47476-Dos-Dos-Serveis-Editorials-S-C-C-L
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/47477-Dos-Dos-Serveis-Editorials-S-C-C-L

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/36939-Hunter-S-Thompson
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/33233-Hunter-S-Thompson

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/36939-Hunter-S-Thompson
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/33233-Hunter-S-Thompson

I fixed the error but it's still good to catalog these as we find them so that they can one day be marked as invalid or removed or something.

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/63947-T-R-Henn
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/63948-T-R-Henn
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/63949-T-R-Henn

Not really a duplicate but impossible to fix due to autocomplete:
Correct is http://www.biblio.gs/credit/21836-Rembrandt-van-Rijn
wrong is http://www.biblio.gs/credit/24325-Rembrandt-Van-Rijn (note the capital V in Van)

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/63957-Ivar-Gissurarson
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/63959-Ivar-Gissurarson

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/63878-John-Berendt
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/63877-John-Berendt correct

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/40558-Carl-G-Jung
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/40557-Carl-G-Jung

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/64608-Terry-Gilliam
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/64607-Terry-Gilliam

Duplicate appeared when I clicked the book title, then the author name.

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/27199-Sir-Walter-Scott
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/25021-Walter-Scott

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/67032-Nancy-A-Collins
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/67039-Nancy-A-Collins

Somehow, the copyright and author credits originally went to different profiles.

Somehow, the copyright and author credits originally went to different profiles.

Yes, that is left over from the time where credits were duplicating if the same new person was entered twice on a new sub. I don't know if it's still happening or not.

http://www.biblio.gs/forum/44728-Bug-report-Author-names-duplicating

Oops...

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/65864-Carl-Jacobi
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/65865-Carl-Jacobi

I don't know if it's still happening or not.

It was still happening a couple of weeks ago, but haven't "tested" it since.

It's happening. I duplicated Carl Jacobi and Nancy A. Collins within the past few days.

Oh, sorry. I got the picture from Adambassador's message that those were created a while ago and didn't double check...

I really made a mess of things...

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/66396-Haffner-Press
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/66398-Haffner-Press

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/65368-Lee-Brown-Coye
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/65369-Lee-Brown-Coye

http://www.biblio.gs/credit/69923-Douglas-Coupland
http://www.biblio.gs/credit/69916-Douglas-Coupland

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/74111-Joachim-Ernst-Berendt
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/74113-Joachim-Ernst-Berendt

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/76047-SAGDOS-S-p-A
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/56411-Sagdos-SpA

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/47685-John-Leonard
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/47686-John-Leonard
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/47687-John-Leonard

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/42109-Daniel-Mroz
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/42109-Daniel-Mroz

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/49663-Daniel-Vendrell
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/49666-Daniel-Vendrell

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/65020-Daniel-Riano-Rufilanchas
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/65030-Daniel-Riano-Rufilanchas
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/65031-Daniel-Riano-Rufilanchas

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/65101-Daniel-M-Mendez-Rodriguez
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/65102-Daniel-M-Mendez-Rodriguez

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/41232-Sandra-Lee-Phipps
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/41233-Sandra-Lee-Phipps

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/76720-R-A-Montgomery
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/57242-R-A-Montgomery
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/57239-R-A-Montgomery

also Raymond A. Montgomery, Jr.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/78377-Mojgan-Azimi
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/78412-Mogjami-Azimi

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/41195-Nintendo
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/41199-Nintendo

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/35047-Stanley-Appelbaum
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/34609-Stanley-Applebaum

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/97418-Alasdair-Gray
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/97420-Alasdair-Gray

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/97730-Clarissa-Pinkola-Estes-Ph-D
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/97663-Clarissa-Pinkola-Estes

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/54238-Quentin-Blake
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/54237-Quentin-Blake

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/66399-Michael-Moorcock
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/66393-Michael-Moorcock

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/76159-Byron-Preiss-Visual-Publications-Inc
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/76161-Byron-Preiss-Visual-Publications-Inc

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/28816-Basic-Books
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/40646-Basic-Books-Inc
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/31508-Basic-Books-Inc

Basic Books v Basic Books Inc
I'd be careful with these, these are not necessarily the same. There has been times when Basic Books was just an imprint (I'm not sure about the current status).

Just a reminder that the books could be moved under one entry already (usually the one with the lowest number in identical cases - otherwise the more correct one), and write something like this to the duplicate profiles: https://www.biblio.gs/credit/66398-Haffner-Press

OK, will do, thanks for the advice :)

Created this by mistake:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/92981-A-Spot-Of-Dead-Light

The correct entry is:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/102188-A-Dead-Spot-Of-Light

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/105989-Olivier-Corpet
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/105992-Olivier-Corpet

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/50518-John-Zorn
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/108630-Zorn-John

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/50518-John-Zorn
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/108630-Zorn-John

Fixed, thanks.

It´s the same person, one credit for editor, one for contributing writer.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/109536-Andreas-Rauscher

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/109530-Andreas-Rauscher

Fixed Andreas Rauscher.

Same person

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/98704-Oliver-Schmitt

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/98703-Oliver-Schmitt

Publisher and Publisher series

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/109935-Junius-Verlag-GmbH

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/109938-Junius-Verlag-GmbH

same person

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/109941-Dimitri-Liebsch

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/109944-Dimitri-Liebsch

You are still "producing" duplicates by adding new credits, if you one person has more than one credt in a new submission.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/34926-Ryunosuke-Akutagawa
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/43384-Akutagawa-Ryunosuke

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111974-Peter-Biskind

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111976-Peter-Biskind

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111875-Jonas-Engelmann

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111882-Jonas-Engelmann

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111915-Roger-Behrens
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111922-Roger-Behrens

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111919-Christian-Werthschulte

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111923-Christian-Werthschulte

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111918-Johannes-Ullmaier

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111921-Johannes-Ullmaier

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111934-Johannes-Ullmaier

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111992-Intercontinental-Book-Productions
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111993-Intercontinental-Book-Productions

You can avoid the duplicates by entering the credits in parts. If you notice someone has been credited for multiple roles, just enter them once, submit, and add the rest once the entry has been created.

Thanks Mirva, I figured that out afterwards. Here's another one I found:

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/108034-Brian-W-Aldiss
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/108035-Brian-W-Aldiss

Both of which are ANVs for

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/64107-Brian-Aldiss

I've moved the books under one entry and renamed the duplicate ones. :)

Thanks for the tip, I will go this way at future contributions.

The duplicates I posted are still there.

Stephen Baxter:

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/78491-Stephen-Baxter
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/78496-Stephen-Baxter

Chester Himes (the great US Crime novelist):

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/74589-Chester-Himes
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/74595-Chester-Himes

Don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, but it appears that if you use the same credit name twice in the same listing, Bibliogs creates 2 different credit strings. See Tomislav Tikulin on

https://www.biblio.gs/book/113936-Reunion-On-Alpha-Reticuli-II

Can this be stopped?

Canongate Books

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/35346-Canongate-Books-Ltd
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/30535-Canongate-Books-Ltd
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/29591-Canongate-Books
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/36594-Canongate

Folio Society

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/23440-The-Folio-Society
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/114027-Folio-Society

Don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, but it appears that if you use the same credit name twice in the same listing, Bibliogs creates 2 different credit strings.

Yes, the devs are aware of it:
https://www.biblio.gs/forum/44728-Bug-report-Author-names-duplicating

10 months though, and still not fixed? It's the sort of annying bug that makes me almost want to give up on Biblibibliogs.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/114965-MINT-Magazin-fury-Vinyl-Kultur

Can be deleted, right entry here:

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/114964-MINT-Magazin-fur-Vinyl-Kultur

10 months though, and still not fixed?

Yeah... not enough complaining, I assume. ;-)

I've gone through the dupes from the past week with the exception of:

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/35346-Canongate-Books-Ltd

Obviously at least the credits with Ltd are dupes, but it needs to be discussed/researched what is the correct company name, and whether the others should be kept separate as imprints or for other reasons.

I've gone through the dupes from the past week with the exception of:

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/35346-Canongate-Books-Ltd
Obviously at least the credits with Ltd are dupes, but it needs to be >discussed/researched what is the correct company name, and whether the >others should be kept separate as imprints or for other reasons.

True
I'm sure there are cases where, regardless of the official company name, abbreviations and suffixes were used.
Do we want the credit to match the book or to be the correct company name?
What about when a company changes it name?

I'm sure there are cases where, regardless of the official company name, abbreviations and suffixes were used.

Yeah, definitely. But these probably should be handled on a case by case basis.

I think the preference for a primary credit should be the correct company name (if it appears on a book) - or at least a common variation of the correct name. Like in this case the official company name is "Canongate Books Limited" (which is not in the database yet), but "Canongate Books Ltd" is still correct enough IMO, and I'd suggest making that the main entry. Does that make sense?

Without further images, it's difficult to say whether "Canongate Books" or "Canongate" should be just ANVs of the company above, or whether they actually have a separate imprint. "Canongate Crime" at least seems to be a valid (and separate) imprint.

What about when a company changes it name?

Well, if we're following the Discogs standards, then that would be a new entry.

Yeah, definitely. But these probably should be handled on a case by case >basis.

I think the preference for a primary credit should be the correct company >name (if it appears on a book) - or at least a common variation of the correct >name. Like in this case the official company name is "Canongate Books
Limited" (which is not in the database yet), but "Canongate Books Ltd" is >still correct enough IMO, and I'd suggest making that the main entry. Does >that make sense?

Without further images, it's difficult to say whether "Canongate Books" or >"Canongate" should be just ANVs of the company above, or whether they >actually have a separate imprint. "Canongate Crime" at least seems to be a >valid (and separate) imprint.

Agreed. I've just noticed the Name Variation field and I assume that should be used for the book's spelling while the Credit field should link to the existing page? I've noticed older books using random punctuation, and that's in my small collection.

As a follow on, I've monied the two existing Pan Books pages to specify one as the Publisher and one as the Imprint. The releases and credits are almost correct but wanted to confirm this is appropriate before making any changes.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/29490-Pan-Books-Ltd
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/29483-Pan-Books

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/114390-Derek-Attridge
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/114388-Derek-Attridge

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/65966-Harold-Monro (correct)
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/116018-Harold-Munro (typo)

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/26729-Music-Sales-Pty-Limited (Pty.)
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/101015-Music-Sales-Pty-Limited (Pty)

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/26819-10-18 (10/18: correct form based on their website: https://www.10-18.fr/)
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/26739-10-18 (10-18: incorrect)

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/120814-Daniel-R-Schwarz
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/120818-Daniel-R-Schwarz
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/120819-Daniel-R-Schwarz

Is there a way of deleting duplicates yet?

What we've been doing is changing the author's name to "Duplicate' and then when someone comes along to enter a new credit, they just do a search for "duplicate" and then edit it into the new credit prior to submitting the book.

Here is the "Edit" function. https://www.biblio.gs/credit/120819-Daniel-R-Schwarz/edit

Thank you.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/26739-10-18 (10-18: incorrect)

Hmmmm. The contact page says "Éditions 10-18", as does their Facebook. Twitter has both.
https://www.10-18.fr/contact/
https://www.facebook.com/Editions.10.18/
https://twitter.com/Editions1018

Just saying because I doubt anyone is going to be excited about editing 71 submissions... Though some of those need some minor tweaks anyway, as they are a publisher not an editor (I know the French word can mean both).

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122504-Bibliogs
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122505-Bibliogs
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122549-Bibliogs
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122550-Bibliogs
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122553-Bibliogs
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122554-Bibliogs

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122496-Fabrice-Mundzik
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122497-Fabrice-Mundzik
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122498-Fabrice-Mundzik
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122541-Fabrice-Mundzik
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122542-Fabrice-Mundzik

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122507-Ambiance-Graphique
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122536-Ambiance-Graphique
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122551-Ambiance-Graphique

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122515-Christine-Luce
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122516-Christine-Luce

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122518-Nelly-Chadour
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122519-Nelly-Chadour

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122523-Emile-Fitz
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122524-Emile-Fitz

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122506-Meredith-Debaque
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122535-Meredith-Debaque

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122499-Antoine-Calbet
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122500-Antoine-Calbet

I'll fix them for you, just hold on a sec. :)

Alright, now there should be just one entry each:

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122504-Bibliogs
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122496-Fabrice-Mundzik
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122507-Ambiance-Graphique
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122515-Christine-Luce
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122518-Nelly-Chadour
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122523-Emile-Fitz
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122506-Meredith-Debaque
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/122499-Antoine-Calbet

wahoo ! fast & efficient ! Thank you mirva ^_^

Glad to be of help. :)

could you please erase 2 ghost entries ?

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/48934-Editions-La-Decouverte-et-Syros
(2 separate publishers : https://www.biblio.gs/credit/126004-La-Decouverte & https://www.biblio.gs/credit/57633-Syros)

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/58623-Editions-La-Decouverte
(is an ANV of https://www.biblio.gs/credit/126004-La-Decouverte)

Thank you

Done. :)

Though they are not really erased but renamed. Anyone can do it, and it's really easy to do:
- Click "Edit this Page"
- Edit the "Title" either to a new author/publisher/etc., or to "Duplicate" when someone else will use it for a future submission
- Save

Hi,

hmm I don´t know how this happened, but every credit is now three times in the database, only the third entry is filled with information, so the other two could be deleted, thx.

https://www.biblio.gs/book/135321-Recht-verstandlich-Eine-etwas-andere-Einfuhrung

An empty credit page: https://www.biblio.gs/credit/132699-Wlad-Godzich

Another: https://www.biblio.gs/credit/55745-Theodor-Adorno

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/29708-The-University-Of-Minnesota-Press

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111358-Jodi-Picoult

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111359-Jodi-Picoult

Is it okay to just fix duplicates myself when it's obvious that it's not an alias or anything? I'd migrate the submissions to the page with the most submissions in it, and add a description to the empty one not to use it (like this one).

Also, maybe it would be helpful to make a list of exact duplicates, like the one pistolwhip posted, as an easy reference for submitters to recycle them?

I meant to say a list on the wiki.

There is a credit for Kurt Vonnegut and one for Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. I'm quite sure they are the same person. Some of my books have the Jr and some don't. I'm not sure use the main credit when submitting my books, or use the one that fits the name on the actual books.

://www.biblio.gs/credit/24040-Kurt-Vonnegut

/www.biblio.gs/credit/31569-Kurt-Vonnegut-Jr

Obviously I didn't copy the links fully. Whoops.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/31569-Kurt-Vonnegut-Jr

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/31569-Kurt-Vonnegut-Jr

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/24040-Kurt-Vonnegut

Sorry

Not sure if that should be a ANV or an alias (if/when that's implemented)?
If ANV, probably best to use main credit with ANV, if alias use the one as printed, I think.

Not sure how this happened:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/133114-Uitgeverij-Acco
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/133116-Uitgeverij-Acco (this one's empty now)

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/136839-Henry-Miller
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/136838-Henry-Miller
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/136837-Henry-Miller
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/136836-Henry-Miller
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/136831-henry-miller
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/136834-henry-miller
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/22428-Henry-Miller

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/28687-TASCHEN
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/21686-Taschen

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/23355-Taschen-GmbH
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/23625-TASCHEN-GmbH
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/27119-Taschen-GmbH-Koln

I'm not sure what the guidelines are on company names. I've seen publishers split up between "Publisher", "Publisher Ltd" and "Publisher, Inc.". GmbH is the German name for "Limited" companies, so it falls under the same category.

I'm not sure when to credit what. Often both "Publisher" and "Publisher Ltd/Inc" are mentioned on a release.

Anyway, I'm going to merge Taschen credits and Taschen GmbH credits separately.

I think maybe Ltd/Inc company names should be used for things like Copyright holder, while the name without Ltd/Inc should be used as the publisher. What do you guys think?

Anyway, I'm going to merge Taschen credits and Taschen GmbH credits separately.

I think that's probably the best option. IIRC, at least in the books I have, Taschen GmbH is only mentioned as a copyright holder, never anywhere else.

I think maybe Ltd/Inc company names should be used for things like Copyright holder, while the name without Ltd/Inc should be used as the publisher. What do you guys think?

I think these should be handled on a case by case basis. I don't see a reason forcing two entries in cases where they clearly refer to the same entity, and both versions are used interchangeably.

Of course in some cases one is an imprint, and the other is a company, but IMO we shouldn't assume that to be true in every case.

It might be good to open a separate discussion about this, as this definitely should be discussed thoroughly at some point.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/133148-Theo-de-Feyter
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/133149-Theo-de-Feyter
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/133150-Theo-de-Feyter

Corbis credits that should be split up:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111031-Corbis-Nasa
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/39967-Craig-Aurness-Corbis
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/133679-Corbis-Picture-Press
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/22281-Conde-Nast-archive-Corbis
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/22283-Conde-Nast-Archive-Corbis
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/29400-Bettmann-Corbis

Other Corbis duplicates which are unclear to me how they should be handled:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/128748-Corbis-Outline
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/24193-Corbis-Cover
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/23285-Corbis-Stockmarket
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/74158-Corbis-Dusseldorf
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/82283-RoyaltyFree-Corbis

@mirva
Yeah, you're right. A separate probably would be useful to discuss cases where the distinction is unclear.

Btw - since the history view is what it is, it would be much appreciated if you could include a small note about what you're editing. :)

Oh, yes, I will keep that in mind in future, sorry!

Random House dupes:

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/20929-Random-House-Inc
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/25752-Random-House-Inc
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/33488-Random-House-Inc

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/19445-Random-House-Group-Limited
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/23444-The-Random-House-Group-Ltd

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/21893-The-Random-House-Publishing-Group
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/64646-Random-House-Publishing-Group

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/29860-Random-House-Value-Publishing-Inc
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/31923-Random-House-Value-Publishing-Inc

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/31300-Random-House-Childrens-Book
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/30959-Random-House-Childrens-Books

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/33529-Random-House-Mondadori-S-A
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/24194-Random-House-Mondadori-S-A
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/32447-Random-House-Mondari-S-A

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/105678-Random-House-UK-Ltd
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/128578-Random-House-UK-Limited

Unclear:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/59592-Random-House-Audio
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/76593-Random-House-Audiobooks
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/76594-Random-House-Audio-Publishing

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/26734-Random-House-Mondadori-S-L

I'll go ahead and fix these.

Oh, yes, I will keep that in mind in future, sorry!

It's no big deal - I just want to learn from my mistakes. ;-)

I will double check the Random House Audiobooks/Random House Audio Publishing when I get home as I created both of those.

I've merged Random House Inc and Limited, will do the rest later.

Jonathan Cape (fixed):
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/21775-Jonathan-Cape-Ltd
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/40316-Jonathan-Cape-Ltd

Unclear - should this be split up?
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/35234-Chatto-Bodley-Head-Jonathan-Cape-Ltd

I will double check the Random House Audiobooks/Random House Audio Publishing when I get home as I created both of those.

Alright, the branding is "Random House Audiobooks" all over, and Random House Audio Publishing is mentioned in the contact information.

I found this: http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/print/20010827/37777-random-house-restructures-audio-unit.html
It says Random House Audiobooks was an imprint, as was Random House Audio. It seems that Random House Audio Publishing was a publishing group, so they should probably all kept separate.

Cool, nice find :)

I was thinking, would it be a good idea to list all subcompanies on a parent company's page?

would it be a good idea to list all subcompanies on a parent company's page?

Definitely. I wish the profile would have fields for it, but I guess we can use HTML for now. :)

Alright, I've created a new thread for that:
https://www.biblio.gs/forum/137039-Listing-related-companies-to-profiles

Looks like HTML will do quite well for now, imo.

Another redundant: https://www.biblio.gs/credit/73991-Stanley-Cavell

These need to be merged as well...

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/34149-Oxford-University-Press-Inc
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/21101-Oxford-University-Press-Inc

Oddly, "Negotiated Through": ""This book was negotiated through Agnese Incisa Agenzia Letteraria, Torino."

Pretty sure "Leck" is just the location of the company:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/38106-Clausen-Bosse-Leck

The proper profile:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/19224-Clausen-Bosse

But at 75 entries I'm not bothered at fixing this atm.

Hi, I fixed this. I also put all credits with "GmbH" into the proper profile.
Imo we can delete the wrong ones, so new entries will be made only in the proper profile.

Wrong profiles:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/38106-Clausen-Bosse-Leck
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/142742-Clausen-Boss (Mistype)
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/25849-Clausen-Bosse-GmbH

Nice work, thanks! I've added a small text to 38106 and 142742 referring to the correct profile.
I'm not sure if GmbH should be merged too though?

Variations on Butler and Tanner:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/19572-Butler-Tanner-Ltd
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/32315-Butler-Tanner-Ltd-Frome-and-London
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/21258-Butler-Tanner
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/30713-Butler-and-Tanner-Limited
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/38137-Butler-And-Tanner-Ltd
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/35056-Butler-and-Tanner

IMO Clays Ltd, St Ives plc should be renamed "Clays Ltd" and these profiles should be merged into it:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/27995-Clays-Ltd
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/19568-Clays-Ltd
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/20576-Clays-Ltd-St-Ives

For now I'll be using "Clays Ltd, St Ives plc" where it's printed like that.

IMO Clays Ltd, St Ives plc should be renamed "Clays Ltd" and these profiles should be merged into it:

I agree - but some folks disagreed:
https://www.biblio.gs/forum/41574-Clays-Ltd-St-Ives-CNV-Preference

Thinking about it, I suspect that we should be using Clays Ltd with Clays Ltd, St Ives plc as an ANV.

I think that Clays Ltd, St Ives plc is the most common, mind. So perhaps that's what we should be using!

I think that Clays Ltd, St Ives plc is the most common, mind. So perhaps that's what we should be using!

Since that's two companies, we can also enter them separately. ;-)

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/40099-Erich-Von-Daniken
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/33010-Erich-von-Daniken

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/24733-Folio
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/37799-folio

Correct version:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/111752-Annie-Proulx

Duplicates:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/153018-Annie-Prolux
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/94362-E-Annie-Prolux

butler and tanner have lots of duplicates at the moment that could do with being merged.

fixed them!

Many variations of Mackays of Chatham plc
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/19415-Mackays-Of-Chatham-PLC
Earliest version, 28 entries
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/21873-Mackays-of-Chatham-plc
Version added later but with 63 entries, so less work to standardise on this one
Plus others with fewer entries

Does someone know Greek?
Isn't this just a duplicate profile for H. P. Lovecraft:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/167534-Labkrapht-Khaouarnt-Philips ?

Does someone know Greek?
The internet is wonderful.
"To κάλεσμα του Κθούλου και Δαγών" is "To call of Cthulhu and Dagon."
"Ο ίσκιος πάνω από το Ίνσμουθ" is "The shadow over the Insmouth."
And "Λάβκραφτ Χάουαρντ Φίλιπς" is H.P. Lovecraft.
Isn't this just a duplicate profile for H. P. Lovecraft?
Yes. Assuming we consider Google Translate to be adequately authoritative.

So who will put Greek Lovecraft to correct credit name ?

Correct one:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/171815-Kate-Rappacchi

Wrong one with typo:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/175764-Kate-Rappacch4

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/25615-Printer-Industria-Grafica
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/23537-Printer-Industria-Grafica-SA
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/24412-Printer-Industria-Grafica-S-A
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/27881-Printer-Industria-Grafica-S-A
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/34920-Printer-Industria-Grafica-Sa
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/157492-Printer-industria-grafica-S-A

Both profiles have been updated, and both have books, not sure which one should be kept:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/106386-Stuart-Gilbert
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/106387-Stuart-Gilbert

As one of my books https://www.biblio.gs/book/190626-The-Plague is linked to both Stuart Gilbert entries, I am happy to go with https://www.biblio.gs/credit/106387-Stuart-Gilbert which has three attributes. However, I am at a loss as to how I can edit my book to use just the one PAN.

One of the things that really bugs me about this site is that when I use a name that currently exists in the database, I receive a flash of something that lasts less than a nanosecond. For all I know, I could be receiving a subliminal message to drink more Coca Cola. I then have to use a second window to check if the name exists in the database. No wonder duplicate credits are occurring.

In relation to the above, it is frustrating, one (hopefully temporary) workaround is if you type the word slowly the list of possible credits doesn't disappear.

Yeah, that works. For existing duplicates I just remove the last letter of the name to get the list to appear. Sometimes you have to do more than just one letter, but that usually works.

Also take into account that the system doesn't recognize some characters. So if you're looking for Random Name (2), you can only type in "Random Nam" for the full list to show up.

What is also annoying that it's sometimes really hard to tell which one is the correct entry... The list gives nothing but the name. It would be better if it gave a picture, part of the profile or even the entry number in addition.

Sorry for the all the complaints, but I just woke up and haven't gotten my tea yet. :P

Hmm, 'slowly' works a treat. Thanks for the hint folks. I have consolidated the credits for Stuart Gilbert using https://www.biblio.gs/credit/106387-Stuart-Gilbert

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/196482-R-G-and-F-J-Richardson
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/196483-R-G-and-F-J-Richardson

I inadvertently created a duplicate. I have swapped all credits to: https://www.biblio.gs/credit/196483-R-G-and-F-J-Richardson so the earlier version is not required. Sorry.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/127946-Ace-Frehley
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/127950-Ace-Frehley

Consolidated credits to https://www.biblio.gs/credit/127946-Ace-Frehley

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/72630-Adam-B-Ulam
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/72633-Adam-B-Ulam

Consolidated credits to https://www.biblio.gs/credit/72630-Adam-B-Ulam

another Clausen & Bosse Variation. CPI is the printing group Clausen & Bosse belong to. The right credit would be: https://www.biblio.gs/credit/19224-Clausen-Bosse

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/37587-CPI-Clausen-Bosse-Leck

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/38172-Van-Holkema-Warendorf-N-V
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/38173-Van-Holkema-en-Warendorf-N-V

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/24295-Van-Boeckhoven-Bosch
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/38159-Van-Boekhoven-Bosch-bv

Not sure which one is correct.

And another one:

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/38777-Verlag-Philipp-Reclam-Jun-Leipzig
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/39960-Verlag-Philipp-Reclam-Jun

Re Clausen & Bosse, The company was acquired by CPI in 2002
Wikipedia
If I am interpreting the company register correctly, the name of the company changed in March 2017 from Clausen & Bosse GmbH to CPI Clausen & Bosse GmbH. Leck is the location so not strictly speaking part of the name.
https://www.unternehmensregister.de
The CPI website indicates that Clausen & Bosse is still trading as Clausen & Bosse GmbH; the change to CPI Clausen & Bosse GmbH is quite recent and the website may not be updated yet.
So Clausen & Bosse was and independent business until 2002 when it was acquired by CPI group but continued to trade under its existing name until it became CPI Clausen & Bosse in March 2017. So I think both versions are valid here, depending on the date.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/33581-Colourscan
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/22156-Colourscan-Singapore

Colourscan, Singapore is no longer required as the credits have been transferred to Colourscan as per https://www.biblio.gs/forum/197308-Colourscan-Colourscan-Singapore-Possible-merge

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/194711-Zoe-Dominic
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/194713-Zoe-Dominic

The first PAN is not required as I discovered her name is correctly spelled Zoë Dominic. I created the latter PAN to incorporate the umlaut.

Correct version:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/21720-Book-Club-Associates-BCA

Duplicate:
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/75134-Book-Club-Associate-Limited

This is a mistake I made, it needs deleting. Thanks.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/221791-Kama-Sutra-and-Tantric-Sexsubject

alexl unlike on Discogs, eliminating a duplicate credit on Bibliogs is simple.

Just edit the credit and in the title section overtype the name with the word Duplicate and in the submission notes, just state that the credit is a duplicate and not required and is ready for recycling (or words to that effect). Someone (usually the industrious elahrairah) will recycle the duplicate at some stage for a new credit.

Your mistakes will disappear without trace (almost).

I meant to add that I recycled the 'Kama Sutra and Tantric Sexsubject' credit for you.

https://www.biblio.gs/credit/137459-Ivan-Bilibin
https://www.biblio.gs/credit/178414-Ivan-Iakovlevich-Bilibin

Not sure which one to keep though.

First, an apology for all of the duplicates I've accidentally created as a result of the "add a book" form's auto-fill.

Is there any way to turn it off?
It seems somehow incompatible with Safari; I click on an "auto-filled" entry or allow it to stand (the one generated here, not by safari), like Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., and only the letters I've manually typed in are saved?
Also'd like to thank mirva for fixing so many of those auto-fill problems.

mirva, Иван Яковлевич Билибин had two credits and Ivan Bilibin just the one, so opted for the first variation. I have recycled PAN Ivan Bilibin, found another credit for Иван Яковлевич Билибин and updated his profile with images. All done and dusted.

fantastic work everyone :)

Just noticed that the Kurt Vonnegut/Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. duplicate that pistolwhip mentioned 9 months ago had not been sorted. PAN Kurt Vonnegut had the majority of credits, so transferred the Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. credits to the first PAN using ANVs and readied the redundant PAN for recycling.

Is there any way to turn it off?

I don't think so. But I wouldn't worry about it too much, it's all fixable. :)

Иван Яковлевич Билибин had two credits and Ivan Bilibin just the one, so opted for the first variation

Thanks! I just couldn't decide which one should be kept... one had two releases, but the other had a profile. They were too equal in my mind... lol.

This is not a duplicate credit but a book:
https://www.bookogs.com/book/200162-MISTAKE-DUPLICATED-Tanguedia-no-18

Would it be ok to just change that to another book?

mirva I have left a message in the history for Alcides_Cuneo who created both versions seeking clarification on what this means. Hopefully, I shall receive an answer.

I don't think the user knew how to remove/recycle the entry, and marked the duplicate book/magazine sub that way hoping someone else would do so.

If the user doesn't respond, I think it would be safe to recycle the [MISTAKE-DUPLICATED] entry; I believe that was his intention.
His other Tanguedia #18 entry, like the other issues, has a cover image, etc.

Thanks davilona. I have removed the data and marked the title as Duplicate. Alcides_Cuneo did not respond to my comment left 7 days ago, however I think the title "[MISTAKE DUPLICATED] Tanguedia no 18" was a fair indication that it was no longer required.

I am here! Sorry if I didn't answer, sincerely I wasn't aware of those comments. I didn't know (and I still don't) how to recycle an entry, so thanks for doing it for me this time. I think I'll learn. ;)

Hi, Alcides_Cuneo, to edit/delete your book entry: click on "edit this page", delete the old info including the title--then when you want to add a new book, use that "blank" entry. The only thing you cant remove is the format, but you can change that when you want to add a new book.
You can give it a title "duplicate-to recycle" or something else so you'll remember why you removed the info.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/213478-J-A-K-Thomson
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/33257-J-A-K-Thomson

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/264608-Gustavo-Wojciechowski
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/298829-gustavo-wojciechowski

Alcides_Cuneo I have consolidated credits for Gustavo Wojciechowski to 264608 and marked 298829 as a duplicate. Fixed.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/24140-guild-publishing
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/24721-guild-publishing

Swapped all of the books on the later Guild Publishing credit to the earlier one and marked the redundant one as a duplicate, ready for recycling. Fixed.

This one's generally credited as "Dragon's World Ltd."...

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/33147-dragons-world
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/33240-dragons-world-ltd

There was a time when I wouldn't have hesitated in consolidating Dragons World and Dragons World Ltd, but these days I don't know. There might be something significant about Ltd that differentiates the two. This Wikipedia cites both names as imprints of Paper Tiger Books: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Tiger_Books

Main/correct credit:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/86947-gilles-neret

Two misspelled duplicates:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/33024-gilles-neret
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/215772-gilles-neret

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19133-archiv-fur-kunst-und-geschichte
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/20949-archiv-fur-kunst-und-geschichte-berlin

I have fixed the Gilles Néret duplications using name variations where required.

I have swapped the Archiv für Kunst und Geschichte, Berlin credits to Archiv für Kunst und Geschichte credit with name variations.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/64094-c-m-kornbluth
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/107816-cyril-kornbluth
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/237874-c-m-kornbluth

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/65876-clifford-d-simak
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/322308-clifford-simak

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/64107-brian-aldiss
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/275547-aldiss-brian

dzed I have corrected the three sets of duplicates. Well spotted.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/39519-ebner-spiegel-ulm
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/352244-ebner-spiegel

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19159-ebner-ulm
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/20898-ebner-ulm

BadMoon I have corrected both sets of duplicates.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/30281-michael-crichton
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/97022-michael-crichton

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21581-elsnerdruck-berlin
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/360939-elsner-druck-berlin
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19135-elsnerdruck-gmbh

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19570-m-rules
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/81262-m-rules

BadMoon I have corrected the Michael Crichton duplicate. I have partially corrected Elsnerdruck. I quickly searched the internet and Elsnerdruck appears to have only the one location and that is in Berlin. It could be argued that Elsnerdruck GmbH is the oldest entry in the database therefore it should be kept and Elsnerdruck Berlin marked as the duplicate. This would require a sizeable mass edit, so I will post a forum topic canvassing opinion on the subject.

westpier I have corrected the M Rules duplicate. Simply a user with an over eager punctuation finger. Thank heavens for images with submissions.

BadMoon as I was researching Elsnerdruck I discovered that the company was located in Berlin for 130 years and at the end of 2003 they relocated to Pößneck in Thuringia: https://www.welt.de/print-welt/article280211/Traditionsfirma-Elsnerdruck-vor-dem-Aus.html

Therefore, there is an historical reason for keeping both Elsnerdruck Berlin and Elsnerdruck GmbH. Whether the two credits are used correctly is another matter.

It could be argued that instead of Elsnerdruck GmbH there should be an Elsnerdruck, Pößneck, however that could be difficult to retrospectively implement and misleading if that name is not credited in the submitted publications.

Elsnerdruck was included to an already existing factory in Pößnek. I'm not sure, if the brand Elsnerdruck was in use for printings after that in 2003. No later than 2006, when there was a merger with https://www.bookogs.com/credit/79485-mohn-media there should be no more credit for Elsnerdruck as printing company.

Here's a couple of duplicates:

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/50632-noel-coward (correct)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/288283-noel-coward (incorrect)

bartondavis corrected Noël Coward duplicate

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/44931-london-features-international
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/292892-lfi

I've done some tidying but chosen to keep the LFI profile as is rather than remove it. The reason being is London Features International is more often than not abbreviated to LFI or L.F.I. and many users may not know what LFI refers to.

BadMoon in reference to Elsnerdruck, it would be very helpful to find a source that verifies the name ceased to exist in 2003 when the firm relocated. My German language skills are basic, so it is difficult for me to research this subject. Your assistance would be appreciated.

If it can be proved that Elsnerdruck only existed in Berlin then there is no reason for having the two credits. With this information I can then canvass the merge in the forum.

Anaideia, there are some really confusing, contradictory informations to find about Elsnerdruck. Conclusion: Elsnerdruck (regardless of the printing company, the publisher [renamed to Otto Elsner Verlag] and the foundation [founded in 2006]) was always resident in Berlin. The printing branch was included to GGP Media GmbH, Pößneck and not used as stand alone "brand" (for printing) anymore (Mohn Media Elsnerdruck GmbH appears on the net as company designation (located in Pößneck) but I didn't find a clue if this was used as credit anywhere).

Talking Mohn Media:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/37566-mohn-co-gmbh
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19536-mohn-co-gmbh
incorrect: "Mohn & Co" (founded 1946) was not a GmbH but an oHG (these days, there is actually a [not related] company named Mohn & Co GmbH, offering factory equipment/ installation). It was renamed to "Mohndruck Reinhard Mohn" in 1966
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/88105-mohndruck-reinhard-mohn-ohg
Around 1971 the companys legal form (? correct english designation?) was changed to GmbH
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/79571-mohndruck-reinhard-mohn-gmbh
in 1979 renamed again to "Mohndruck Graphische Betriebe" https://www.bookogs.com/credit/37862-mohndruck-graphische-betriebe-gmbh
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/211450-mohndruck-gmbh
in 1999 renamed again to "Mohn Media"
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/79485-mohn-media
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/219450-mohn-media

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21374-ggp-media-gmbh-possneck
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21910-ggp-media-gmbh

some really confusing, contradictory informations to find about Elsnerdruck

I'm glad you found the same. Personally, I think a credit name of just Elsnerdruck is probably sufficient and if users can add name variations as they see fit. I will post a thread for a name change and merge, but I can't guarantee a result.

As for Mohn Media.

I have transferred attributions with https://www.bookogs.com/credit/37566-mohn-co-gmbh to https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19536-mohn-co-gmbh However, you state that Mohn & Co GmbH didn't exist, yet if you have a look at the colophon image (3rd on file) for https://www.bookogs.com/book/7520-das-madchen-vom-moorhof you will see the credit for this very company.

Next:
I assume you feel that https://www.bookogs.com/credit/88105-mohndruck-reinhard-mohn-ohg and https://www.bookogs.com/credit/79571-mohndruck-reinhard-mohn-gmbh are both valid credits.

Next:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/211450-mohndruck-gmbh is probably a shortened form of https://www.bookogs.com/credit/37862-mohndruck-graphische-betriebe-gmbh I have left a note on one of the submissions to canvass opinion on merging the shortened form.

Next:
I have transferred attributions with https://www.bookogs.com/credit/219450-mohn-media to https://www.bookogs.com/credit/79485-mohn-media

Last:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21910-ggp-media-gmbh has a directive to use https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21374-ggp-media-gmbh-possneck but unfortunately that doesn't stop users from adding books to it. Maybe I will get rid of it altogether.

Deleted https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21910-ggp-media-gmbh

I guess, such dfferent names for only one company (the "Mohn" thing) could never be fixed through the name variation function, so there better should be one credit for each impression, you fixed it perfectly.
Very surprised about the Mohn & Co GmbH credit (note to myself:never trust one single source). Usually I try to avoid spreading what we call "gefährliches Halbwissen" (dangerous half-knowledge) in Germany.

Just to follow up on the Elsnerdruck credits: I sent a PM to BadMoon earlier today outlining the need for a timeline of the company with reliable sources backing the data. Until this is forthcoming, I will take no further action.

I try to avoid spreading what we call "gefährliches Halbwissen"

Don't be too hard on yourself. For every fact there is usually a contradictory one. Sometimes the truth is located somewhere in the middle.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/369365-detlef-klewer (correct)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/131943-detlef-klever (wrong/typo)
I checked (and edited) this one and he is definately credited as Klewer, not Klever:
https://www.bookogs.com/book/131942-moviestar-sonderheft-zombies
On this one he is credited with the wrong spelling:
https://www.bookogs.com/book/367752-kannibalen
maybe some of his other credits used that one too.

Duplicate
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/103120-franckhsche-verlagshandlung-w-keller-co
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/37946-franckhsche-verlagshandlung-w-keller-co
Duplicate (wrong spelling/typo)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/37949-franckhsche-verlagshandlung
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/316584-frankhsche-verlagshandlung

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/67736-hulton-archive
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/20930-hulton-archive-getty-images
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/22282-hulton-archive-getty-images
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/38831-hulton-archives-getty-images
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/112168-hulton-getty

Think its best to keep two of them:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/67736-hulton-archive (purely for credits that don't mention Getty plus one of the other Hulton - Getty credits)

Also various Simon & Shuster eg.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/25867-simon-schuster-inc
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/37106-simon-and-schuster-inc

westpier the Hulton Getty question was raised some time ago by elahrairah: https://www.bookogs.com/forum/239020-hulton-getty

As you can probably tell it didn't get resolved.

I've had those Simon & Schuster duplicates on my "to merge" list quite a while, but at least I have not been able to merge them because of the ampersand bug, I've been just waiting for it to get fixed. I wonder if the staff would be able to merge/move the books for us, like on Filmogs?

Correct: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/25867-simon-schuster-inc
Incorrect: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/262410-simon-schuster-inc
Incorrect: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/37106-simon-and-schuster-inc
Incorrect: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/238940-simon-schuster-inc

Correct: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/31730-simon-schuster-childrens-publishing-division
Incorrect: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/310114-simon-schuster-children-s-publishing-division

Correct: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/31779-Simon-Schuster-Books-For-Young-Readers
Incorrect: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/332019-simon-schuster-books-for-young-readers

Correct: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/24328-simon-schuster
Incorrect: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/327469-simon-and-schuster

Thanks for the updates on Hulton and Shuster.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/205785-rene-magritte
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/23146-rene-magritte

GruenerTee fixed René Magritte duplicate.

Fixed the Simon & Schuster duplicates as per mirva's list.

BadMoon I'm sorry I overlooked your comment.

Detlef Klever looks as if it should never had existed as all attributions used a NV of Detlef Klewer. I have corrected the duplication.

I have corrected the Franckh'sche Verlagshandlung, W. Keller & Co. duplicates.

westpier I have cleaned up the Hulton Archive duplicates.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19132-hansbernd-lindemann (correct)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/230004-hansberd-lindemann (typo, no items credited)

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/303093-fischer-verlag (correct)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/96778-fisher-verlag (typo)

BadMoon corrected both duplicates.

There are 4 John Harris entries and by the looks of it only need to be 3.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/31855-john-harris - was mixed now only Sci-Fi artist ie. John Harris (3)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/98848-john-harris-2 - English curator / historian
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/105962-john-harris-3 - Sci-Fi artist
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/113518-john-harris-4 - music journalist writer

Basically the first entry was had a mix of John Harris (2) and John Harris (4), I started tidying it up before realising it will have no entries if I move everything. So ok to move all of John Harris (4) to John Harris? I'll have to do it tomorrow.

You have my vote.

So ok to move all of John Harris (4) to John Harris?

Go for it.

correct: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/167985-aiolos
erroneous (all-caps) duplicate: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/167982-aiolos

kwulf, fixed duplicate.

What do we do with duplicate Book entries?
https://www.bookogs.com/book/404860-record-collector-252
https://www.bookogs.com/book/226002-record-collector-august-2000-no-252

The information from the later submission needs to be transferred to the earlier submission. Then the details can be removed (the Formate can't be deleted), the title changed to Duplicate and the images disabled. The Duplicate book credit will in time be recycled for another submission.

Has the OS of the later submission been made aware of the duplication, i.e. a comment left in the history?

With reference to https://www.bookogs.com/book/404860-record-collector-252 : I have posted a comment in the history and started a discussion topic https://www.bookogs.com/forum/405870-duplication It is now up to the OS to respond.

correct > https://www.bookogs.com/credit/38202-j-g-ballard
duplicate > https://www.bookogs.com/credit/359821-j-g-ballard

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/359821-j-g-ballard marked as a duplicate

Diogenes

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21589-diogenes (publishing imprint)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/235168-diogenes (Greek philosopher)

Plus publishing variations:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21595-diogenes-verlag
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21594-diogenes-verlag-ag
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/222924-diogenes-verlag-zurich
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/268011-diogenes-verlag-ag-zurich

Plus:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/172521-diogenes-of-apollonia (same as philosopher?)

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/235168-diogenes
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/172521-diogenes-of-apollonia

Two different people. The first one is Diogenes the Cynic and the second is Diogenes of Apollonia. I will complete the profiles so that there is no confusion.

I think these two could be considered duplicates as Diogenes Verlag is located only in Zurich: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_Verlag and https://www.diogenes.ch/leser.html

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/222924-diogenes-verlag-zurich - consolidate to Diogenes Verlag
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/268011-diogenes-verlag-ag-zurich - consolidate to Diogenes Verlag AG

The rest are valid.

Just for the record:
Diogenes is an AG since 1966

Thanks for the updates on Diogenes

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19191-deutscher-bucherbund
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/299936-deutscher-bucherbund

BadMoon, I have moved the later credit attributes to the earlier credit. Marked the latter as a duplicate.

I have also consolidated https://www.bookogs.com/credit/222924-diogenes-verlag-zurich and https://www.bookogs.com/credit/268011-diogenes-verlag-ag-zurich to the earlier Credits.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/91592-c-h-becksche-buchdruckerei-nordlingen
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19177-c-h-becksche-buchdruckerei

Not sure which one should be the main credit, but they seem to be the same.

They are the same, as the printing part of the company remained in Nordlingen, even when the publishing4 part moved to Munich.
But those two are not the end of the flagpole (German saying):

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19177-c-h-becksche-buchdruckerei
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/91592-c-h-becksche-buchdruckerei-nordlingen
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/120703-c-h-becksche-buchdruckerei-nordlingen
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/30649-druckerei-c-h-beck-nordlingen
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/135336-druckerei-c-h-beck-nordlingen

Publishing house:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/26257-c-h-beck
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/188284-c-h-beck
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/267667-c-h-beck-ohg:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/57903-verlag-c-h-beck
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/66662-verlag-c-h-beck-ohg

Yeah, those were just the ones that showed up in the dropdown for me. Do you think we should merge those into just two entries, one for the printing company, and one for the publisher?

I desperately want a full word dropdown, the first letter search will create duplicates forever and a day.

Yes, I think this should be merged My suggestions:
Keep
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/91592-c-h-becksche-buchdruckerei-nordlingen
as this seems to be mostly used one (on actual items). So the following two are candidates for merging:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19177-c-h-becksche-buchdruckerei
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/120703-c-h-becksche-buchdruckerei-nordlingen
As they seem to credit themselves in a new way at present, I would leave
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/30649-druckerei-c-h-beck-nordlingen
as it's the older one and merge this one to it
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/135336-druckerei-c-h-beck-nordlingen

I didn't took a second look at the publishing branch at the current status.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/316139-hardcore-punk
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/229349-hardcore

Ambassador_M, they have been set up as two separate credits. The clue is in the profile information for Hardcore Punk.

Ah right, sorry for the mistake!

@Badmoon - that seems like a fair approach to me.

Another German company:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/242802-hermann-lichterhand-verlag-gmbh-co
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/103811-hermann-luchterhand-verlag-gmbh-co-kg

"Another German company:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/242802-hermann-lichterhand-verlag-gmbh-co
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/103811-hermann-luchterhand-verlag-gmbh-co-kg"

I couldn't find a hint, that gmbh & co (without kg) was official at any point but that doesn't mean anything. But the typo is already fixed.

Alright, I'll leave them be for now then.

I already merged the C. H. Beck'sche Buchdruckerei, Nördlingen duplicates yesterday, and will now go forward with the Druckerei C. H. Beck, Nördlingen duplicate.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/286912-sapo
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/421622-sapo-wsoy
Later (SaPo WSOY) created by mistake, listed entry moved to the older entry (SAPO)

brand0 I have removed the duplicate.

If you find you have created a credit in error, just retitle it to Duplicate and save. If there are images, then simply disable them.

This Duplicate credit will in time be recycled by another user for something else.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/72544-bavaria-gauting
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/110114-bavaria
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/422118-bavaria-bilderdienst

BadMoon could you expand on why these three are duplicates. Could they be historical phases of the company for example?

Well, kind of.
At first, there was Bavaria Verlag (aka Bavaria Verlag Heinrich Frese), Gauting
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/131828-bavaria-verlag
Initially a priodical & book publisher (as it seems), I've found publications from the late 1940s but no infos when it was founded or when they stoppped publishing. The first mentioning of Bavaria as a photography archive I've found is 1983.

The Company was renamed to Bavaria Bildagentur GmbH, Gauting in November 1989 and the former registry was erased.

The company was sold to VCG by the end of 1995 (including a 30 years rental contract for the two company buildings). June 1996 registry of Bavaria Bildagentur Verwaltungsgesellschaft mbH, München (same adress as VCGs headquater, the Gauting premises still main operation centre).
Unconfirmed date: December 1996 the Gauting registry got erased, other sources state the Gauting GmbH was active until 2005 (at least). They had offices in Hamburg and Düsseldorf during the mid/late 90s, no accurate dates available

VCG was taken over by Getty Images in the early 2000s; the Bavaria brand got disbanded and the premises in Gauting got closed (sometimes in 2008), despite the still running rental contract.

The dates of the three credits are from the 70s, 80s & 90s on
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/72544-bavaria-gauting
the 80s & 00s on
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/110114-bavaria
and the 90s & 00s on
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/422118-bavaria-bilderdienst
I'll vote that as duplicates.

But, althouh I've already put a profile on Bavaria, Gauting, we better choose the simple Bavaria as main entry, don't we? To avoid duplicate reappearing.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/151804-ward-lock-co
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/268033-ward-lock-co

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/240672-scott-foresman-and-company
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/210318-scott-foresman-and-company

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/74172-stark-verlagsgesellschaft-mbh-co-kg-freising
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/74174-stark-verlagsgesellschaft-mbh-co-kg-freising

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/29356-sing-cheong-printing-co-ltd
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19618-sing-cheong-printing-co-ltd

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/343462-enid-blyton-ltd
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/417117-enid-blyton-limited

I think I was a bit too eager to add a new credit as I think it may cause confusion. There are two Bob Marley groups:

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/426674-the-wailers (with Peter Tosh & Bunny Wailer)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/38074-bob-marley-the-wailers (After Tosh & Wailer left)

However, some releases on Discogs credit Bob Marley & The Wailers when Tosh and Wailer are still in the band. Also with Marley's fame the group seem to be rarely credited to just The Wailers. So I predict potential confusion in future. Shall I remove The Wailers (and all my lovely links I've just added)? Or just leave it as they're linked anyway?

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/131079-thomas-dorn
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/209923-thomas-dorn

Shall I remove The Wailers (and all my lovely links I've just added)? Or just leave it as they're linked anyway?

I'm not really familiar with them, but I always try to think what would be the easiest and most useful for other users. Would people be looking for books about one of them only? Do you think people would know to link to the correct entry? Are both subjects common, and are there a lot of books about both of them?

Duplicate works::
https://www.bookogs.com/work/411421-the-system-of-dr-tarr-and-prof-fether
https://www.bookogs.com/work/412793-the-system-of-doctor-tarr-and-professor-fether (dupe)

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/431446-cardinal-editions
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/80517-cardinal-edition
(I prefer to use the first one - check images I added - but I leave it to the more knowledgeable to decide which one should stay. Definitely the same though.)

This entry is also for the same series (of Pocket Books, Inc.):
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/219761-cardinal

Needs recycling,
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/217415-peter-owen-ltd

I took care of the Poe duplicate work.

I prefer to use the first one - check images I added - but I leave it to the more knowledgeable to decide which one should stay. Definitely the same though.

I agree that the name should be Cardinal Editions. You could still use the oldest entry and just rename it - but it's not that big of a deal either way.

Back to the subject of the Wailers vs Bob Marley & The Wailers, only reggae buffs will know (or probably care about!) the difference. I doubt there are many books solely about The Wailers. However, on the magazine front it may be different, as things like Record Collector may actually say The Wailers but I expect Bob Marley's will feature prominently. There again its the same with Bob Marley & The Wailers.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/231039-il-libro-malazan-dei-caduti
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/434610-malazan-book-of-the-fallen

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/369063-christiane-f
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/45283-christiane-felscherinow

Not sure whether to keep both, have the first credit to be about the film/book and the second about the person. But there again the author is credited as Christian F.

Also what to call the 'works' - I think the original German title was 'Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo' but Christian F. (the author) was frequently used as part of the title (due to the film?)

According to Wiki - "The UK issue of the book was released by Corgi on the 21st August 1981 under the title H. Autobiography of a Child Prostitute and Heroin Addict and was translated by Susanne Flatauer...The American issue of the book was released by Bantam in 1982 under the title Christiane F.: Autobiography of a Girl of the Streets and Heroin Addict".

Normally, I would say keep both but I looked at the attributions for https://www.bookogs.com/credit/45283-christiane-felscherinow and none of them actually credit that name but use Christine F. instead. Therefore, I would transfer those books to the Christine F. and mark Christine Felscherinow as a duplicate. If at some stage a book is submitted to the database then a new credit can be generated. Whether that will ever happen is unknown but in the meantime I think it is pointless having a credit that is not used.

She is always mentioned as Christiane F. even when appearing with her full name.
The comparsion is probably a little hobbling, but if you know Cher, you don't have to know Cherilyn Sarkisian La Pierre.

Sorry westpier I see that there was a 2nd part to your question which I failed to address. The Works credit is always the original publication title, in this example Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo. Any variations of this can be added using the Works name variation facility in the respective book submissions.

This is the German wiki page for the book: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_Kinder_vom_Bahnhof_Zoo

OK, thanks for the replies, I agree with using Christiane F. then.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/177109-j-h-haynes (author)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/255717-j-h-haynes-and-company-limited (2 entries)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21058-j-h-haynes-co-ltd (15 entries)
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/34148-j-h-haynes-co-ltd (4 entries)

I think the first one can be left alone as 'author' John Harold Haynes. The other 3 need merging probably in to the one with entries. However, I will mention that the book I've got writes the name like the one with 4 entries, without a space between - J.H. Haynes rather than J. H. Haynes.

J.H. Haynes rather than J. H. Haynes

Yeah, it's registered without the space as J.H. Haynes & Co. Limited.

Does someone want to edit 15+ books? If so, then I'd move everything to the correct spelling (#34148) as it has a profile and all. If you wanna take the easy route, then I'd move everything to the earliest entry (#21058) and just edit the name. I think either way works.

Also, the author entry has some books where J.H. Haynes & Co. Ltd. has been NV'd to the author: https://www.bookogs.com/book/197365-fiat-127-1971-to-1983-all-models-903-cc-1049-cc-1301-cc-owners-workshop-manual (for example)

Kept https://www.bookogs.com/credit/177109-j-h-haynes as he is credited as the author on some books.

Marked https://www.bookogs.com/credit/255717-j-h-haynes-and-company-limited and https://www.bookogs.com/credit/34148-j-h-haynes-co-ltd as duplicates

Transferred the relevant attributes to https://www.bookogs.com/credit/21058-j-h-haynes-co-ltd with appropriate ANVs.

I think that is sorted.

Thanks!

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/31294-amber-books-ltd
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/170710-amber-book-ltd

Aren't these the same company, the second one just misspelled?

The OS of the book that generated the credit obviously thought so, as they went on to complete the credit profile as well. I have swapped the book to the earlier credit using an ANV (as per image) and marked the later credit as a duplicate.

Thanks!

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/45716-alastair-macneill
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/64735-alistair-macneill (typo, cover image shows "Alastair MacNeill")

Too many Alistairs/Alastairs perhaps? Corrected error.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/20082-carl-schunemann
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/300529-carl-schuenemann

Are these the same?

Yes, it's the same and the images of the books on the Schuenemann credit show it spelled Schünemann.

Yep, they were submitted by a German user who had a chronic aversion to the umlaut. I have marked the latter as a duplicate. So, we now have:

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/20082-carl-schunemann (publisher) / https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19653-carl-schunemann-verlag (publisher and legal entity) / https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19652-schunemann (imprint)

Thanks :)

Btw - if someone is bored and needs something to do, we have a duplicate "Children's" genre (it was updated to "Children's literature" at one point).

https://www.bookogs.com/browse/book?genre=Children%27s

I can't see why the staff can't run a job and update all of these 512 books in one hit. That's why computers were invented.

Make that 515 books.

I wonder why they haven't done that - or any of the credit roles that have been updated?

mirva, I have sent the staff a begging letter asking for assistance. With any luck we won't have to edit the 515 books.

Let's hope they can mass update them. :)

We've updated those genres from "Children's" to "Children's literature". Let us know if you see anything weird. And yes, for simple structural but numerous updates like these please do reach out, bulk updates are easier than people doing it by hand.

I wonder why they haven't done that - or any of the credit roles that have been updated?

I think we must have just missed them. Are there other ones you've noticed specifically?

Great, thank you. :)

Are there other ones you've noticed specifically?

There are some credit roles that have been updated.

Copyright (Cover/Jacket Art) -> Copyright Holder (Cover/Jacket Art)
Copyright (Original Edition) -> Copyright Holder (Original Edition)

"Copyright Holder (Illustrations/Photos)" was split into two credits but those have to be updated manually.

Thanks for an early Christmas present. I now have time to read a book (or two).

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/431833-alexandra-von-reinhardt
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/318932-alexandra-v-reinhardt
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/108356-alexandra-reinhardt

BadMoon do you have a preference out of the three?

I'm swaying between the one with "von" as it's her full name and the one with the "v." as it's mostly used.
I doubt the third one.

I guess, I'll vote for the "v.": the older one (of the two qualified) with the most items listetd.

Thanks BadMoon, I have consolidated everything to Alexandra v. Reinhardt using name variations, and marked the other two credits as duplicates.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/82860-jean-claude-carriere
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/32892-jean-claude-carriere (no items on this one)

That's easy. 32892 marked as a duplicate.

kalli, I knew there was another role that had been modified and it has taken me 2 weeks to remember it (and another 10 minutes to find this thread).

Distributed by -> Distributed by/Director of Distribution

And another:

Cover Design by -> Cover/Jacket Design by

thanks mirva and SextonBlake. I have moved those credit roles

"Copyright Holder (Illustrations/Photos)" was split into two credits but those have to be updated manually.

I could get you a list of the submissions that include credits with that role if that helps?

I could get you a list of the submissions that include credits with that role if that helps?

It certainly would. Hopefully, there aren't that many to edit:)

Just out of interest, is there anyway of getting a list of book and work Credits that are displaying error messages due to incorrect date formats?

And another:

Layout -> Layout by/Layout Coordinator

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/33040-stephen-r-donaldson
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/43948-stephen-donaldson

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/38825-macmillan-london-limited
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/441243-macmillan-london-ltd

Fixed both.

That's weird. Normally, when I retitle a Credit to Duplicate the link becomes broken, yet I can click on the above changed credits and they lead to the Duplicate. This site is full of wonderment.

Another one:
Periodical Imprint -> Periodical Title

I could get you a list of the submissions that include credits with that role if that helps?

That would definitely help, though the main problem is that it's not always clear which one is the correct role.

Not sure if this is the right topic for this (if someone knows better, please let me know), but this same zine's been uploaded twice, both times with different infos present/missing heh. I assume the page number difference comes from one uploaded counting the covers as pages while the other one didn't.
https://www.bookogs.com/book/431872-bestial-desecration-fanzine-1
https://www.bookogs.com/book/429022-bestial-desecration-1

I have left a note in the History of the latter submission (431872) asking the OS to determine if this is a duplicate.

If the OS doesn't respond in a timely manner, then we might have to reconsider our options at a later date.

Slight difficulties regarding the press / photo agencies.

Associated Press: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/45515-associated-press
AP: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/62134-ap
AP Photo: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/299875-ap-photo
AP Images: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/225025-ap-images

Associated Press is the parent company with AP Images the sub-label as it were:
http://www.apimages.com

So suggest entry for Associated Press and one for AP Images

Likewise:
Press Association: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/317809-press-association
Press Association Images: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/19507-press-association-images

Keep as is? Or change Press Association Images to PA Images?

Both companies are frequently just credited as PA & AP.

Se also the following which need splitting:

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/255704-ap-wild-world-photos
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/256897-ap-wide-world

So suggest entry for Associated Press and one for AP Images

I agree with that.

Keep as is

I think so. The profile for Press Association actually mentions PA Images as a distinct entity.

I have edited the books that credited https://www.bookogs.com/credit/255704-ap-wild-world-photos and https://www.bookogs.com/credit/256897-ap-wide-world converting them into separate credits using NV's where necessary. I have marked those two Credits for recycling.

I would make AP Photo an NV of AP Images.

Whoops! I accessed so many links that I forgot where I read that PA Images information: it was in the external link that you provided and not in any of the Bookogs profiles.

Hmm, it seems I didn't fully understand the last part of your question. I have renamed Press Association Images to PA Images as this is the name they use on their company website, and it is also listed this way in the Wiki article on Press Association. I have linked Press Association and PA Images and vice versa in their respective profiles.

An overload of AP and PA information for me to digest in one sitting!

Thanks for sorting that out. I'm for AP Images as well, so removing AP & AP Photo.

Second example mis-spelt

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/424547-piet-mondrian
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/268260-piet-mondriaan

First one looks best

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/215852-kazimir-malevich
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/176228-kazimir-malevitch
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/347413-kasimir-malewitsch

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/268260-piet-mondriaan - Marked as duplicate
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/176228-kazimir-malevitch - Marked as duplicate
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/347413-kasimir-malewitsch - Marked as duplicate

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/73621-valerie-wilmer
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/466053-val-wilmer

I was staring at the Val Wilmer profile for ages convinced I'd created it as I remember the profile pic. But couldn't work out why none of by magazines were listed.

I have marked Val Wilmer as a duplicate, and transferred the attributions to Valerie Wilmer with NVs as required. Great image selection by the way!

Which one should we keep?

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/42583-lew-wallace
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/24370-lewis-wallace

I have marked 42583 as a duplicate as this was generated later and had the least number of attributions.

I think as with Discogs, the duration of a credit is not as important as what is most relevant and correct. However, on the point of duration, if you look at the history of 42583, I edited it 3 years ago when 24370 was edited 2 years ago. Not sure why the older one has the higher number.

All that said, I'm fine with the change.

As far as I know Credits are generated sequentially, therefore it is impossible for 42583 to be generated prior to 24370. But stranger things have happened at sea. I did take into account both the relevance and duration. The earlier credit had the most attributions, therefore it had greater relevance and it was generated first. The second credit in theory should not have been generated as it was simply a name variation.

One of the problems with accessing the history is that the first version can not be viewed. The staff are aware of this bug.

Picture editor etc David / Dave Brolan has two entries, unsure which one to keep as Dave has one more entry.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/29144-david-brolan
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/36915-dave-brolan

I would just keep the earlier entry, David Brolan. I don't think it's that big of a deal since he seems to use both David and Dave.

I would just keep the earlier entry, David Brolan

+1

Publisher credits can be a mess..

These three probably all should be named De Boekerij

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/85808-de-boekerij
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/75320-de-boekerij-bv-amsterdam
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/75323-de-boekerij-amsterdam

And these two both Meulenhoff Boekerij

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/219172-meulenhoff-boekerij
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/37634-meulenhoff-boekerij-bv

I'm fairly certain De Boekerij and Meulenhoff Boekerij are separate - though related - entities, so no need for merging that.

Also, https://www.bookogs.com/credit/40343-j-m-meulenhof is a mistyping of https://www.bookogs.com/credit/85847-j-m-meulenhoff

The community have decided to create credits for the publisher and any legal entities, so the only one that could be a duplicate is 75323, unless the publisher moved to a different location, or had several locations. If that is so, then we keep separate credits to differentiate the history of the company or geographical locations.

I have marked https://www.bookogs.com/credit/40343-j-m-meulenhof as a duplicate. It must have been created in error as it had no attributions.

I found the Dutch Wiki page for the publisher which tells me zilch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Boekerij and the official website is similarly lacking in detail: http://www.boekerij.nl/nl/p4c233eeee09cd/over-uitgeverij-boekerij.html

I really don't know where the publisher is located. Are they now in Amsterdam, and have they always been in this location?

Skimming the site.. seems De Boekerij did have it's first incarnation elsewhere, not Amsterdam (where they currently are). Okay, no mergers needed.

I'll keep this in mind about the legal entities and such (may have to change how I'm submitting some stuff.. I'll learn to do it right!)

Awkward one here between Bauer Media & Bauer Media Group.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/31164-bauer-media
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/255966-bauer-media-group

I'd originally assumed that the former was for UK titles and the latter European. However, just spotted that Polish titles also appear under Bauer Media.

The Bauer Media Group took over big UK publisher EMAP in 2008 ans renamed it https://www.bookogs.com/credit/101059-bauer-london-lifestyle-ltd

However, former EMAP titles are also listed under Bauer Media. Keep as is?

I would keep as is at present. It might be a bit of a jumble but there seems to be a difference between the two. Whether users are selecting the correct credit or the information listed in publications is always precise remains to be seen.

In some countries they are called just Bauer Media, in some Bauer Media Group
https://www.bauermedia.com/en/contact/locations/

The registered name of the company is Heinrich Bauer Verlag KG.
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/90420-heinrich-bauer-verlag
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/90418-heinrich-bauer-fachzeitschriften-verlag-kg

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/23215-allan-folsom
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/101945-allan-r-folsom
Allan R. Folsom is listed as Copyright Holder on Des Teufels Kardinal, but is actually just a name variation of Allan Folsom (whose full name is Allan Reed Folsom). I don't see a reason to keep both entries...

Yes, keep Allan Folsom.

Two more:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/372080-ira-robbins - 2 books
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/477811-ira-a-robbins - 4 books

Though Discogs has 29 entries under Ira Robbins and just 5 under Ira A. Robbins.

Not a dupe but more a mass edit.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/238763-diamond-publishing-group-ltd
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/412058-diamond-publishing-ltd

The first credit originally published Record Collector until early 2000s (judging by start date of second credit). Then replaced by second credit. However, from #283 onwards they are listed under the first credit with an ANV of the second credit, when they should just be listed as the second credit.

I think these two might be the same entity

Abbreviated name: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/269723-harpercollins-childrens
Full name: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/44664-harpercollins-childrens-books

Though Discogs has 29 entries under Ira Robbins and just 5 under Ira A. Robbins.

I would just go with Ira Robbins. It's how he is more commonly referred as, and it's also consistent with Discogs.

https://twitter.com/iarobbins
http://www.trouserpress.com/faq.php

Abbreviated name: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/269723-harpercollins-childrens

After checking the images, I just fixed the only credit under that entry, and marked the entry duplicate.

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/399392-dino
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/432084-dino
already merged

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/73627-alex-scarrow
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/73628-alex-scarrow

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/409291-beatrice-dalle
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/483504-beatrice-dalle

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