https://www.bookogs.com/credit/29729-ovid Ovid has PAN his english name, what about create a new PAN with his latin name, Publius Ovidius Naso?

I don't see the point.

Btw, there's an entry for the full name:

But I'd tend to agree that we should keep these under one entry. Ovid is not a pen name of Publius Ovidius Naso. What the most useful/common name is can be discussed though.

In addition to English, Ovid is also used in German and Danish at least. He's commonly known by a single name in other countries as well (be it Ovidius, Ovide, Ovidio, etc.), so I think the PAN should be a single name.

Btw, there's an entry for the full name:

Not for very much longer.

But, like on Discogs, generally the PAN of an artist is in his native language, why make an exception here? "I don't see the point."

Because Ovid is generally the way his name is credited. Very few books would credit Publius Ovidius Naso. Most of the books attributed to Ovid in the database show his name in singular form native to various languages.

Two books use an NV of Publius Ovidius Naso: https://www.bookogs.com/book/134170-bron-van-betovering-j-w-waterhouse-1849-1917 (that one is discretionary as his name is shown as Ovidius on the cover and in full in the contents listing). The book you submitted is the other exception.

It seems pointless in having multiple credits for someone who is generally known as Ovid. We're not talking about a Madonna or Prince type situation.

As for Discogs, the PAN is generated by the release that first credits the artist's name and has nothing to do with the native language name. This is the Guideline:


on Discogs, generally the PAN of an artist is in his native language

That's just how it goes in most cases, but that's not actually the rule. The rule is "The Primary Artist Name should be the most relevant version of the Artists Name" (2.5.6.) The "most relevant version" is a bit vague, but it's usually the one that the artist is most commonly known as. So, the PAN can be in other language as well, especially if the artist is known outside their own country.

That's why Ovid is also the PAN in Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/artist/1058944-Ovid ;-)

I was going to add an addendum to my comment, but I thought the link to the guideline explains it in full.

If we could edit comments then my life would be complete.

Ok i see. It's just that i saw many times on Discogs some PAN completely changed to reflect the native name (and sometimes alphabet) of an artist, even this new pan is rarely used actually on releases. But i follow your logic, thanks both of you

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