Mangas are comics per definition, aren't they?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga

That would be better placed on comicogs:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/391668-black-butler

I agree, but sometimes it is like splitting hairs.

I have posted a comment on one of this users manga submissions with a reference to https://www.bookogs.com/wiki/when-to-add-to-bookogs-or-comicogs

Just for the record, I sent the user a PM and also left a comment in the History of one of their submissions which have either been ignored or not read.

Obviously staff has the tools to migrate comics to Comicogs, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Thanks mirva, at least this time around when the submission numbers drop it won't be so meaningful.

Yeah... Though they could do wonders to submission numbers if they migrated all comics here. ;-)

What do we do when we find comics/graphic novels from the database?

I thought these two were linking to an incorrect work and fixed them, but then I looked into it and found out that both are graphic novel adaptations of Wells' works.
https://www.bookogs.com/book/426422-h-g-wells-the-war-of-the-worlds
https://www.bookogs.com/book/426418-h-g-wells-the-invisible-man

I wasn't sure with those as thought graphic novels a book (likewise Viz annuals). Its a grey area, as I think was discussed before, and wasn't sure if there was an outcome.

mirva as you are no doubt aware I just conducted edits to the two books in question. I also have doubts whether they should be listed on Bookogs as well. When I searched the internet for more information I found them listed on Comic Vine, which indicates to me that they are comics rather than novels. As westpier said it is a grey area.

I did a title change to reflect what is shown on the cover which has changed the urls. Here are the new links.

https://www.bookogs.com/book/426418-hg-wells-the-invisible-man
https://www.bookogs.com/book/426422-hg-wells-the-war-of-the-worlds

They are graphic novels, see the product images at:
http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/H-G-Wells-The-War-of-the-Worlds/Dobbs/9781683832003

I'm sure you guys are very well aware that I would love if Bookogs also allowed comics - at least graphic novels, and collected trade paperbacks. But the staff has decided otherwise and have been moving them to Comicogs.

I just think in that case we need a tool to report comics easily rather than have to contact staff, or list them in a forum thread.

I just worked out what a "graphic novel" is. They should be on Comicogs.

Thanks for pointing these out. I've moved them over to Comicogs now. As they're listed for sale here on Bookogs, I'm just waiting to hear back from the seller before I remove them from Bookogs completely. Cheers!

Would it be possible to get some button or something to report them? I know there are more of them in the database, but as I'm usually busy enough with other stuff, I just look the other way. :P

That's a good idea, mirva, I'll see if that's something we can implement.

Thanks BadMoon, moved this one to Comicogs now

Also Ethel & Ernest by Briggs:
https://www.bookogs.com/book/428092-ethel-ernest

I'm not sure about The Snowman - it doesn't have any words, but the layout is very comic-like. Also it's often considered a picture book instead of a comic.
https://www.bookogs.com/book/428094-the-snowman

Sorry I'm late getting to these, thank you for the links. I've transferred these to Comicogs and removed from Bookogs.
I'm conflicted about which db The Snowman belongs to... I'm leaning towards Bookogs as a children's picture book, but I can see the case for it being moved to Comicogs. Anyone have a strong feeling about this one either way?

On The Snowman, I would vote for picture book instead of comic.

Anyone have a strong feeling about this one either way?

Not really. As all of the databases have some overlap, maybe it could be included in both.

Also now the Marjane Satrapi profile is empty. Should we just keep it and wait until something else by her is added, or delete it?
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/408670-marjane-satrapi

I'd keep the profile until someone uses it.

Sounds good to me. I actually have a book with an essay by her, but I have not been able to locate it yet.

I was able to find out one issue online, and it seems that they have other stuff than comics as well:
https://issuu.com/zolcsibacsi/docs/hahota-1

Yes, Series HAHOTA contain jokes, graphics, etc. as well. I am searching more genres and add to these books to understand for others.

But looks i need some help from stuff, please. After a great conversation with another user (great help for SextonBlake) now i know i was submitted two books which need to be moved to comicogs:
https://www.bookogs.com/book/435650-a-neutron-akcio-kepregenyfuzet
https://www.bookogs.com/book/435704-a-triton-gyilkossagok
Thanks!

Thanks everyone for digging these out. I've made a start on moving these over to Comicogs, will continue over the next few days

Bugger! The monthly total is reversing.

There's more, but I will not continue until in October. :P

Good idea - keep in mind that it is S.P.I.N. month.

Well, I think the S.PIN result is safe as long as people don't submit comics. ;-)

Haha good point, although it's good for our submission goal on Comicogs

Haha good point, although it's good for our submission goal on Comicogs

Who knows you might end up winning the challenge by dint of transfers.

Are there any novels in Comicogs that need to be transferred here? ;-)

Aren't those considered cartoons?

I take it cartoons belong on Bookogs? If so, I don't mind as I spent a bit of time adding Gary Larson's profile and the same for The Far Side :)

OK, I just read the Wiki page on when to add to Comicogs, so I now know that cartoon books belong here. Too many rules!

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/230454-heavy-metal
Are we allowed to add issues of the magazine? It's mostly comics, but also has some interviews and articles.

I've been thinking about that too, it's mostly comics (roughly 75% on the issues I have), but then it's also a magazine. According to guidelines magazines belong here, and they do advertise themselves as an 'illustrated magazine' instead of a comics magazine.

Yes, I read this guideline right after the post I made here. So I guess it's fine to have them here. I have a dozen or more to add.

https://www.bookogs.com/book/447491-the-green-hand-and-other-stories

This is described on the Penguin website as a Graphic Novel: https://www.penguin.com.au/books/the-green-hand-and-other-stories-9781681371078

The guidelines state graphic novels belong on Comicogs. So maybe it does.

Hello,
How to request a move of a comic (hardcover, many pages, very thick so at first I thought it would be good to add to Bookogs) to Comicogs?

Particulary this one:
https://www.bookogs.com/book/534491-ekspedycja-bogowie-z-kosmosu

Hi Todeskult,
Thanks for letting us know about this one. I've moved it over to Comicogs: https://www.comicogs.com/comic/100377-ekspedycja-bogowie-z-kosmosu. Please check and edit if needed. Thanks!

Hi,
Thanks, looks fine!

Comics to be moved to comicogs:
https://www.bookogs.com/book/347336-des-gaffes-et-des-degats
https://www.bookogs.com/book/347322-en-direct-de-la-gaffe
https://www.bookogs.com/book/346487-gaffes-bevues-et-boulettes
https://www.bookogs.com/book/346528-la-mauvaise-tete
https://www.bookogs.com/book/347251-la-saga-des-gaffes
https://www.bookogs.com/book/347329-lagaffe-nous-gate
https://www.bookogs.com/book/347326-le-cas-lagaffe
https://www.bookogs.com/book/346723-le-geant-de-la-gaffe
https://www.bookogs.com/book/347330-un-gaffeur-sachant-gaffer
https://www.bookogs.com/book/398278-tintin-et-lalph-art
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363329-asterix-af-sidtiroulerisch-4-biachl-69-willsch-wettn
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363213-asterix-af-sidtiroulerisch-1-biachl-48-asterix-ba-dr-naia
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363255-asterix-af-sidtiroulerisch-2-biachl-53-asterix-isch-kesslun
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363299-asterix-af-sidtiroulerisch-3-biachl-60-olls-lai-lolli
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363141-asterix-aff-franggisch-2-bouch-29-asterix-und-es-gscheiderla
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363350-asterix-auf-ruhrdeutsch-3-schmoker-72-tour-de-ruhr
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363366-asterix-auf-ruhrdeutsch-4-schmoker-75-dingenskirchen
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363166-asterix-auf-bairisch-3-buach-35-graffd-wead
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363305-asterix-auf-bairisch-4-buach-63-asterix-da-gladiatoa
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363184-asterix-auf-karntnarisch-1-buach-39-asterix-ols-gladiatoa
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363204-asterix-auf-munchnerisch-1-buach-44-ozabfd-is
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363245-asterix-auf-munchnerisch-2-buach-52-da-subbnkessl
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363379-asterix-auf-munchnerisch-3-buach-77-neihausn-fia-zuagroasde
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363132-asterix-babbelt-hessisch-2-buchelsche-26-ruff-un-runner
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363171-asterix-babbelt-hessisch-3-buchelsche-36-fix-un-ferdisch
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363206-asterix-babbelt-hessisch-4-buchelsche-45-asterix-un-es-zuckerschnecksche
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363238-asterix-babbelt-hessisch-5-buchelsche-50-de-zottelbock
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363242-asterix-babbelt-hessisch-6-buchelsche-51-geh-fort
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363283-asterix-babbelt-hessisch-7-buchelsche-56-de-bieberer-zwersch
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363317-asterix-babbelt-hessisch-8-buchelsche-65-was-e-gefuddel
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363320-asterix-babbelt-hessisch-9-buchelsche-66-mir-strunze-net-mir-habbe
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363232-asterix-balinat-2-buch-49-asterix-und-det-pyramidenluda
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363145-asterix-kuert-westfaolsk-1-book-31-asterix-und-de-kuopperpott
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363294-asterix-off-hunsrigger-platt-1-beijschelsche-59-de-zukunftsgugger
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363200-asterix-off-saggssch-2-biechl-42-asterix-dr-gallchor
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363192-asterix-op-dusseldorwer-platt-1-book-40-dat-koschemetz-us-jold
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363278-asterix-op-kolsch-3-booch-55-asterix-un-dat-kleo
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363016-asterix-op-muhselfranggisch-1-billerboch-24-em-casar-saa-kranzie
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363134-asterix-proot-oostfreesk-platt-1-book-27-asterix-sien-sohn
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363375-asterix-redt-wienerisch-4-buach-76-kooch-uman-asterix
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363152-asterix-ret-wienerisch-3-dialektbuach-32-da-legionaa-asterix
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363178-asterix-schnackt-hamburgisch-1-book-38-hammonia-city
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363352-asterix-schnackt-hamburgisch-2-book-73-asterix-boaie-briedn
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363160-asterix-schwatzt-thieringsch-1-buch-33-casarn-sinn-jeschenke
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363211-asterix-schwatzt-schwabisch-4-buchle-47-am-casar-sei-lorbeerkranzle
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363291-asterix-schwatzt-schwabisch-5-buchle-58-am-asterix-sei-butzawaggele
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363307-asterix-snackt-platt-4-book-64-overt-wiede-water
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363338-asterix-snackt-platt-5-book-71-de-spokenkieker
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363285-asterix-uf-meefranggisch-2-buchle-57-di-frache-der-ehre
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363301-asterix-uf-meefranggisch-3-buchle-61-da-boxe-di-beudel
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363322-asterix-uf-meefranggisch-4-buchle-67-asterix-un-di-wengert-scheer
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363363-asterix-uf-meefranggisch-5-buchle-74-asterix-un-di-schlachtbladdn
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363162-asterix-uf-alemannisch-1-bandli-34-tour-durchs-landli
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363202-asterix-uf-alemannisch-2-bandli-43-da-huslibau
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363276-asterix-uff-meefranggisch-1-buchle-54-dour-de-frangn
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363194-asterix-uff-maanzerisch-1-buschelsche-41-kuddelmuddel-ums-kupperdibbe
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363139-asterix-uff-saarlannisch-1-bilderbuch-28-em-asterix-sei-groosi-tuur
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363303-asterix-uff-saarlannisch-3-biischelsche-62-die-sischel-vun-gold
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363209-asterix-uff-saarlannisch-2-bilderbuch-46-asterix-im-aarmviehteaader
https://www.bookogs.com/book/363325-asterix-babbelt-hessisch-10-buchelsche-68-die-klaabankestadt

OMG!

Hmm, maybe time to consider merging the comics and books together?
In my opinion, comics are a special kind of book, some sort of format.

Yep, there are a lot of comics out there, but also a lot of mixed bag publications, e.g. Heavy Metal, Metal Hurlant (in 5 langauges published), Wizard, De Humorist, Corriere dei Piccoli, Tiger Tim's Weekly, Robbedoes, Blue Bolt, Calling all Girls/Boys/Kids, Treasure chest of fun and facts, PEP, MAD, Arend, The Beano, 1984/1994.
And there must be many more.

And then all the topic-magazines, that have a few pages with comics in them, like Dr. Who weekly/monthly, SF, StarWars, ......

Hmm, maybe time to consider merging the comics and books together?
In my opinion, comics are a special kind of book, some sort of format.

+1

Hmm, maybe time to consider merging the comics and books together?
In my opinion, comics are a special kind of book, some sort of format.

This was discussed at the beginning of bookogs/comicogs. But management wanted to keep them separated. Maybe in the US there is a "comics culture" that does not consider them as "books" (because of all these issues, series, etc so typical of US comics. (also I still do not understand why there is no option for barcode on comicogs, maybe it is also a US thing).
For the rest of world, comics are usually considered as books.
I did not dig much on bookogs for comics, but I think we can find many, many more.

Ok, fine. I can accept this is a choice by management, although I don’t agree.

But then I would like some more specific guidelines where to put the mixed bag magazines and the magazines with about 6pages of comics and the rest general text and images etc.

Otherwise, we will keep running into this issue as more and more items are added to either bookogs or comicogs.
Then management will be constantly busy with transferring data from one site to the other or vice versa.

That time might be better spent on other stuff. Or am I missing something here? :=)

Ok, fine. I can accept this is a choice by management, although I don’t agree.

But then I would like some more specific guidelines where to put the mixed bag magazines and the magazines with about 6pages of comics and the rest general text and images etc.

Otherwise, we will keep running into this issue as more and more items are added to either bookogs or comicogs.
Then management will be constantly busy with transferring data from one site to the other or vice versa.

That time might be better spent on other stuff. Or am I missing something here? :=)

Yes when those new databases started I was more in favour of not separating comics and books (coming from a European cultural point of view), but decision was made otherwise.
I remember that about comics magazines, at the time management decided they should be entered on Bookogs, not Comicogs. Again it does not always make sense as in Europe all comics collectors include comics magazines under comics (when most content is comics, ex: Spirou magazine, Tintin magazine, A Suivre, Pilote, Metal Hurlant, Fluide Glacial, etc for the French side of things).

Again it does not always make sense as in Europe all comics collectors
include comics magazines under comics (when most content is comics, ex: Spirou
magazine, Tintin magazine, A Suivre, Pilote, Metal Hurlant, Fluide Glacial, etc for the
French side of things).

The situation of that kind of magazines seems problematic, if we consider the creation of works. Often those magazines serialized longer comics that were later published standalone, in album format.
I suppose one day we will have the works feature, or equivalent, in Comicogs. When that happens we'll have part of the publication history of these kinds of comics on one DB (Bookogs for magazine publications) and the rest on a distinct DB (Comicogs). Worst, I suppose it makes no sense to have comic works on Bookogs, so the magazine publications of comics will not be organized.
Things could be linked through hyperlinks but I'm not sure that'll be the ideal solution.

Further in the future, supposing newspapers will at some point be catalogued in Bookogs, it'll not only a be problem for Comics published in magazines, it'll be the same thing for daily strips published in Newspapers and collections of daily-strips, over at Comicogs.

I my opinion these issues should be considered, and solved, even with two distinct DBs.

For example, I added this:
https://www.bookogs.com/book/540653-nolgomeogdeon-ggulgguli-geurimcaeg-3
It is a periodical for kids in North Korea. Inside there are illustrated stories, and comics too. A mixed bag, do I put it here.

However, in North Korea there is only one word for both comics and illustrated stories for kids, it is "gulimchaek". This magazine is called gulimchaek on the cover, and Norh Korean comics, which I entred on comicogs, are also called gulimchaek.

So, yes, depending on which country you are, the definition of what a comic is differs.

Magazines and Zines are allowed on Bookogs, and i don't think i'm wrong if i say that a magazine is "less a book" than a comic.
I think the only reason management decided to built two DBs is just that the persons interested by Discogs would be potentialy interested by Comicogs (age, culture, collectables objects) when the books seamed to be less sexy. What is funny is that now Bookogs is relatively active and comicogs not at all.
Building two DBs was just an error IMHO.

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