WARNING - bug in the system


Anaideia
3 months ago
At present the books attached to Credits are not showing. I marked a number of Credits for recycling as I thought they were redundant before I realized what was happening. I have taken note of the URLs and changed the titles of the "duplicates" to something else so they won't be inadvertently recycled. Additionally, I am able to access the History of the Credits I marked as duplicates, but when I click on the version data I receive the following error message:

Server Error
"'NoneType' object has no attribute '__getitem__'"

This error has been logged and we will look into it.
westpier
3 months ago
LOL - I think you broke it.
Anaideia
3 months ago
That thought did run through my mind.
kalli
Staff
3 months ago
Think the breaking was all our fault. This should be fixed now. Apologies for the inconvenience but thanks for the heads up.
Anaideia
3 months ago
Working nicely. Many thanks.
Anaideia
3 months ago
It seems that I only binned 4 credits thinking that they were not attached to Books. The problem is if I click on the oldest version of the history I am still getting the message that I cited above. Until this is resolved I can't reinstate the Credits.

The affected Credits are:

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/103503-do-not-edit

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/40187-do-not-edit

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/55468-do-not-edit

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/198914-do-not-edit
Anaideia
3 months ago
kalli my last comment was a question directed to the staff. Because of the glitch where the Books appended to the Credits disappeared, I mistakenly edited four Credits thinking they were redundant, retitling them as Duplicates in preparation for recycling.

I still can't access the first version of the history of the four Credits that I have listed as I receive the following message:

Server Error
"'NoneType' object has no attribute '__getitem__'"

This error has been logged and we will look into it.

Until this has been resolved I have no idea what the original titles of the four Credits were.
kalli
Staff
3 months ago
hey Anaideia, sorry for the late reply. There seems to be something weird going on with the version history for credits (version one seems to be missing and therefore trying to view a diff between one and two will fail with the error you mentioned above).

I've reported this error to our developers and have fixed the titles you mentioned by looking them up through in the admin back end. Thanks for your patience and data diligence.
Anaideia
3 months ago
Thanks for the update.
westpier
2 months ago
Another small bug. This entry keeps appearing when using the search term 'Duplicate':

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/284466-duplicate

However, you can't use it, but its beginning to irritate me.
mirva
2 months ago
It should be gone now. ;-)
Anaideia
2 months ago
Excellent. The saying give a man a fish and you feed him for one day, give him a fishing rod and you feed him for life, springs to mind. Just how did you do that?
mirva
2 months ago
I just did an empty edit on the renamed entry:
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/284466-mary-swainson

There was a similar case in Filmogs not so long ago where the updated title of a film hadn't fully gone through: it was showing on the Film page, but the rest of the system was still using the old name. Editing the Film page fixed the situation so I figured the same might work here too.
westpier
2 months ago
Thanks!
Anaideia
1 month ago
mirva I still don't know how you were able to determine the new name of the duplicate, so that you could type the url and then conduct an 'empty edit' on the new credit.

Why I ask is that there is another one stuck in the list of duplicates: https://www.bookogs.com/credit/201626-duplicate

Now, if I had that tool in my repertoire I wouldn't need to bother you. Thanks.
mirva
1 month ago
Look up the entry number (201626), that never changes. It's Martin Page (2). :)
Anaideia
1 month ago
Got it now! Thanks.
mirva
1 month ago
Looks like nothing is getting indexed at the moment...
Anaideia
1 month ago
mirva I reported a similar problem yesterday directly to the staff. The reply that I received stated "...the worker that does the indexing, adding new or updated entries to the search, crashed...".

The problem that I had yesterday was rectified shortly after, but as you noted the fault is back.

I do hope that worker wasn't injured.
mirva
1 month ago
I hope so too... A small change of plans, then. I'll clear out some duplicate companies instead. :)
kalli
Staff
1 month ago
Hey, we did indeed run into some problems with the indexing worker (the day after international worker day none the less). It should be fixed but currently we are being plagued by a lot of spam. Indexing should be caught up soon. Thanks for letting us know and for your patience.
xceque
1 month ago
I've been watching the spammer for the last few hours now. It's getting very tedious watching it grow and not being able to anything about it. Maybe more forum admins? Or at least block posters who post more than two posts per minute.
kalli
Staff
1 month ago
agreed xceque, we are looking into adding more features to avoid and get rid of spam. There are already some things in place, but these spammers are a crafty bunch.
xceque
1 month ago
It's back.
xceque
1 month ago
And again.
Anaideia
1 month ago
I've been watching the spammer for the last few hours now.
Tap him or her on the shoulder and tell them to get a life.
xceque
1 month ago
They've been banished to the recycle bin of ogs.
/dev/null'd into oblivion.
So there's no shoulder, never mind a life.
xceque
1 month ago
Ooh, it's back and it's brought some friends.

Although it's not actually spam, is it. No-one is reading those messages and thinking 'there's some products I'd love to buy'. No-one is being endeared towards them. It's just vandalism.
xceque
1 month ago
Sentinel One to Hercules. Astrea has gone nuts again.
kalli
Staff
1 month ago
We are trying to monitor this and delete as spam gets added. Longer term we hope to have more robust spam defenses soon. Thanks for the heads up everyone.

@xceque: The point of this sort of spam afaict is mostly to get links back to the websites that the spammer is promoting. Those sort of links count towards their ranking in search engines. This also makes it more important to try to get rid of the spam early, before search engines crawl this sort of content and the spammers actually get what they want.
xceque
1 month ago
Thanks for the info kalli. Didn't think of that since there are only plain text web addresses, no actual hyperlinks.
Is there any system for alerting admins directly to problem users or posts for quick response?
A 'report this user' button?
I've been replying in this thread under the assumption that every time I or anyone else does you (at least) would get a message, since you'd be subscribed by virtue of having posted yourself, and that would draw your attention and you'd spot another batch.
mirva
1 month ago
And they're back... 10 pages in the forum and counting. :/
xceque
1 month ago
Yup, this round had just kicked off when I last posted.
mirva
1 month ago
At least the following accounts posting:
https://www.bookogs.com/users/suxiza1007
https://www.bookogs.com/users/suxiza1008
https://www.bookogs.com/users/ahfmsek00
https://www.bookogs.com/users/madggyw
https://www.bookogs.com/users/dasdadsad
https://www.bookogs.com/users/wod718wod
xceque
1 month ago
They've been adding books more recently, rather than just posting in the forum. It's when they start editing books that we'll have a major problem since there's no way to easily revert yet. At least, not for us regular users.
mirva
1 month ago
Yeah, they are doing both. And don't give them bad ideas... :P
xceque
1 month ago
The bots can't read yet... I hope...   :o
mirva
1 month ago
*keeps fingers crossed*

We really need a "report user" button or something...
xceque
1 month ago
Indeed! I said exactly that mere hours before. We also need someone on the other end of it.

Let's hope that the devs have the matter in hand. I expect there are spam detection systems/plugins out there that can be employed beyond simple if-then-else coding to catch suspicious behaviour.

A nice idea would be flagging users as spammers instead of deleting them, tagging spam as spam instead of deleting it right away and only showing things marked as spam to users flagged as spam. Then they can spam away thinking they're having a right old time but with no effect to the rest of us, and will take them longer before realizing they need a new account.
Bit development intensive though. Hey, I can dream.
Anaideia
1 month ago
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I have always wondered why people bother with this sort of behaviour, so now I know. One more step in my path to enlightenment.
Anaideia
1 month ago
Whoops! My quote arrow must have been backwards. I have just woken up.
xceque
1 month ago
Back again.
mirva
1 month ago
Someone needs to revive the indexing worker again... Been waiting since Saturday for renamed entries to get indexed. :/
Anaideia
1 month ago
Someone needs to revive the indexing worker again
That would be helpful, plus stop sending me notifications for edits that occurred prior to my involvement with books and credits. My personal email inbox is filling up with rubbish.
mirva
1 month ago
Still waiting...
Anaideia
1 month ago
Good news mirva, it seems the indexer is up and running again. My email inbox had only two notifications this morning, so maybe my comment was heeded also. Now we just have to get rid of the Korean spammer and life can return to normal.
mirva
1 month ago
Hmmmm. Then either it's working slowly its way through, or then there has been an additional glitch with the credits I added on Saturday because they still haven't been indexed.

Yeah, it would be nice to get rid of the spammers, and I do understand that blocking them is a high priority.
mirva
1 month ago
Ok, it seems that I might have to go and do an empty edit on all of them... just hoping I can find them all. :P
Anaideia
1 month ago
just hoping I can find them all
I know the feeling.
Anaideia
1 month ago
mirva I believe I have found two of your edits:

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/326799-canongate-books-ltd
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/192967-cannongate-books-ltd

I can't locate the modified credits.
mirva
1 month ago
Yeah, I had trouble locating them too, some were easier to find than others... Luckily if I couldn't find them through Google search, I could always find them in my contributions. A little bit tedious but I found them all. :)
kalli
Staff
1 month ago
Apologies xceque and Anaideia. In my overeagerness to clear up spammers I accidentally sent the two of you to spam purgatory (temporarily)

I have restored your user accounts to their former state and re-added all the submissions, but let me know if you see any inconsistencies. I fear the last couple of hours of additions might be inconsistent due to our backup structure and that about 5 documents may have be lost in total (including some replies from this thread)

Again I'm terribly sorry. I have revised my spam script to be more easily recoverable and shall try to measure twice and cut once in the future.
kalli
Staff
1 month ago
re. updates being missing in the search results. I have reindexed all books from the last week in case any updates or additions got lost in the shuffle. Will do the same for credits. Thanks for your patience.
Anaideia
1 month ago
The three book submissions that I made yesterday afternoon have disappeared, my book collection has been reset to zero and my reading list includes every book submission that I have ever made.
xceque
1 month ago
I had to re-set my collection/list sharing settings, but apart from that my account looks ok now. I hadn't done any editing in a while.
That'll teach me to make jokes in Korean.
Anaideia
1 month ago
xceque you're lucky.
kalli
Staff
1 month ago
@Anaideia. Again very sorry about this.

my book collection has been reset to zero and my reading list includes every book submission that I have ever made.
I just had a better look at those lists, should be restored to their prior state now. Let me know if they still look off to you.

The three book submissions that I made yesterday afternoon have disappeared
I'm afraid those are totally gone.

Anaideia
1 month ago
Those lists look a lot better and I suppose can resubmit the three books. Thanks.
mirva
1 month ago
I have reindexed all books from the last week in case any updates or additions got lost in the shuffle. Will do the same for credits.
Thanks. :)
westpier
1 month ago
Entries with parentheses are missing from the drop down again when adding a new book.
Anaideia
1 month ago
Bookogs has now been bombarded by spammers for the past five days. How much longer is this going to occur?
Anaideia
1 month ago
@kalli The three books which I submitted that were deleted during the spam purge are still showing up in the database, however if I click on them I get a 404 message. The books in question are:

'Flashman and the Mountain of Light' by George MacDonald Fraser: https://www.bookogs.com/search?q=flashman

'The Castlemaine Murders' by Kerry Greenwood which I resubmitted and both copies are shown here: https://www.bookogs.com/search?q=kerry%20greenwood

'A Long Way From Home' by Peter Carey: https://www.bookogs.com/search?q=a%20long%20way%20from%20home

Do they still exist or not?
kalli
Staff
1 month ago
@Anaideia ah actually hadn't considered that the entries would still be in the search service, I have restored them to the db from the info in there. Some detail might be missing, maybe check them out. Thanks for the heads up and apologies again for nuking those entries.

https://www.bookogs.com/book/345904-a-long-way-from-home
https://www.bookogs.com/book/345815-flashman-and-the-mountain-of-light

Anaideia
1 month ago
@kalli almost there. With the https://www.bookogs.com/book/345904-a-long-way-from-home submission there are four credits that appear in the search service but are not active in the database:

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/345910-steve-waters-2
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/345905-glen-curnow
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/345906-john-leonard-curnow
https://www.bookogs.com/credit/88942-michael-lionstar

Hopefully, you can restore these as well. Thanks.
kalli
Staff
1 month ago
Fixed, thanks for your diligence Anaideia.
Anaideia
1 month ago
No, it is not fixed. I have no idea what is going on. The four credits will not form hyperlinks in the submission and the book credit is not shown as an attribution for any of the four. I have tried all sorts of work arounds to no avail.
kalli
Staff
1 month ago
my bad, but think it should be good now.
Anaideia
1 month ago
Thanks kalli, I reckon we are back to normal.
Anaideia
1 month ago
Now the two restored submissions have twins in the database.

https://www.bookogs.com/search?q=A%20Long%20Way%20From%20Home
https://www.bookogs.com/search?q=Flashman%20and%20the%20Mountain%20of%20Light
Anaideia
1 month ago
It looks the doppelgängers have left the building.
Anaideia
1 month ago
It looks like the doppelgängers have left the building.
kalli
Staff
1 month ago
Fixed, thanks again Anaideia.
mirva
4 weeks ago
Now occasionally when I click the "Edit this Book" button, the data doesn't load, all I get is the title. It seems to be random, but happens sometimes several times in a row.
phasics
4 weeks ago
Me too. Also when "Add one like this". F5 helps.
Anaideia
4 weeks ago
Yep! Same here.
Anaideia
4 weeks ago
I should add that my fix is to hit the page refresh which then loads the data correctly.
mirva
3 weeks ago
Yeah, refresh fixes the issue, though sometimes I have to refresh the page several times for the data to show up.
westpier
3 weeks ago
Drop down is a bit ropey again, only lists the first 10 credits. Plus if credit includes '&' or a comma etc. it doesn't appear, eg.

Simon & Schuster, Inc - https://www.bookogs.com/credit/25867-simon-schuster-inc
kalli
Staff
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the heads up on the submission form problems. That should have been fixed now.

@westpier: We are aware of the symbols being problematic in the search. Hope to investigate soon. Thanks for the ffedbacl.
westpier
3 weeks ago
Thanks, likewise accents above letters can be a problem eg. if submitter doesn't know its André Deutsch rather than Andre Deutsch, as André will not show up if submitter types Andre.
kalli
Staff
3 weeks ago
@westpier: The ampersand bug should be fixed now. We are aware that handling accented characters (unicode case folding) isn't optimal, hope to address that soon
mirva
2 weeks ago
A delayed thank you for fixing the ampersand bug. :-)

Another thing: when I try editing on my phone, the corner bubble covers the "Save" button - I always have to change to landscape mode. Not a big deal, just mildly annoying. :P
kalli
Staff
2 weeks ago
thanks for the heads up mirva, will pass that on to the developers.
Vipasser
2 weeks ago
Hi everyone
Did anyone notice that recent additions is not updated when someone add a book or credit?
Anaideia
2 weeks ago
I notice that book credits are also being offered when typing a credit in a submission. It certainly is the case if you are typing The Beatles.
kalli
Staff
2 weeks ago
I notice that book credits are also being offered when typing a credit in a submission. It certainly is the case if you are typing The Beatles.
This has been fixed, thanks for the feedback.
westpier
1 week ago
Trying to change following entry to 'Duplicate' but for some reason when I press the 'save' button nothing happens:

https://www.bookogs.com/credit/240316-hackette-book-group-inc

Can someone else try it, thanks.
Vipasser
1 week ago
I can't edit anything
A warning system appears:
"Our spam systems flagged this action as spam"
Anyone else?
kalli
Staff
1 week ago
@Vipasser: Are you still getting that error? We have been tweaking our spam systems a bit today because of an onslaught of spam.

Is it for all kinds of edits / submissions? Or just very minor edits?
Vipasser
1 week ago
Yes, I'm still getting that message: "Our spam systems flagged this action as spam" when I try to add a new book. In the meanwhile the only one I could add it is https://www.bookogs.com/book/385005-la-coartada-perfecta
Anaideia
1 week ago
Can't edit a Wikipage. Click save button and page just hangs, not even an error message.
mirva
1 week ago
I had problems with the save button sometimes last week, but as the problem went away I thought it had been fixed. Looks like I was wrong.

It was totally random though, sometimes the button was working and sometimes not. If it didn't work, most of the time I had to go back and redo the edit.
Anaideia
1 week ago
mirva I thought you might have banned me from adding magazines to the Wiki page :)

I have attempted three times without luck. It might be something to do with the latest spam filters.
Anaideia
1 week ago
Just in case I get run over by a bus these are the three magazines I am trying to add to the Music section of https://www.bookogs.com/wiki/magazines-on-bookogs

disco revue (/credit/385136-disco-revue)
Les Rockers (/credit/385152-les-rockers)
POP 2000 (/credit/384719-pop-2000)
Anaideia
1 week ago
Until the Wiki page editing problem is fixed, here are some more magazine titles.

Men's Interest (if that is a euphemism for straight male porn):
Chobix (/credit/385426-chobix)
QX (/credit/385417-qx)
Newlook (/credit/385410-newlook)
Front (/credit/385406-front)
Ché (/credit/385400-che)
Hot Video (/credit/379704-hot-video)

Music:
Atem (/credit/252727-atem)
Rock & Folk (/credit/385319-rock-folk)
rock'n'roll musique (/credit/385026-rocknroll-musique)
Sonic Seducer (/credit/385382-sonic-seducer)
Vive Le Rock! (/credit/385393-vive-le-rock)

Film, Cinema & Television:
Schokkend Nieuws (/credit/385359-schokkend-nieuws)

???
Bizarre (/credit/379668-bizarre) - described as an alternative magazine
Sinical Magazine (/credit/379673-sinical-magazine) - alternative/fetish modeling & photography magazine
mirva
1 week ago
if that is a euphemism for straight male porn
I think they are sometimes included in the "Men's Interest" section, but most of the time adult/porn magazines have their own section. I would consider doing it here too.
mirva
1 week ago
mirva I thought you might have banned me from adding magazines to the Wiki page :)
Hehe... Even if I could do something like that, I would never ban anyone from improving the database. I'm not that mean. :P
Anaideia
1 week ago
Thanks mirva, it seems the edit function has been restored. I will create an Adult/Porn section as you suggest. I will list Sinical Magazine in Photography. I am still undecided about where to put Bizarre. Any suggestions?
sharpmath
1 week ago
I'd suggest Culture for Bizarre magazine.

The wikipedia page states, "Bizarre covered alternative culture through interviews with counterculture personages, and articles about the Occult, LGBT culture and drug, fetish, and other subcultures. It also reviewed the work of avant-garde directors, musicians, authors, and visual artists—and of those who have a cult following."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarre_(magazine)
AbsoluteBodyControl
1 week ago
Bizarre is a difficult one to categorize...

As above, Culture would be a good suggestion...
It was always with all the other Men's magazines in the shops...
The cover used to say "Don't buy if you're easily offended. Contains gore, girls, sex and violence".
Anaideia
1 week ago
Thanks for the replies. I have added Bizarre to Culture.
Anaideia
1 week ago
I just went to access the Wiki pages and I am getting a 404 error. One way to get rid of the guidelines.
Anaideia
1 week ago
I have sent the staff a message via the dialogue bubble on this topic.
Anaideia
1 week ago
For some reason I can't access the book submission History. I click on the button and it just doesn't respond.
Anaideia
1 week ago
I am now able to access the History but it is slow to respond.
westpier
2 days ago
Is the slight incredibly slow at the moment (and last night) or is it just my crappy internet connection? Judging by the amount of new submissions it might just be me.

Getting this error:
Error 502 Ray ID: 42e5bf1baa023494 • 2018-06-21 10:21:08 UTC
Bad gateway
Anaideia
2 days ago
I am constantly getting a 502 as well, which I believe is a problem with the Bookogs server and nothing to do with your internet.

It doesn't last for long but I have lost some data as a result.

I am also having problems loading pages as they tend to hang for awhile.
Anaideia
2 days ago
There is something very wrong with the system at the moment. I am constantly receiving either a 502 (bad gateway) or 522 (timed out) error which I can trace to the Bookogs server. On several occasions I have lost data as a result. I hope this is fixed soon as it is rather annoying.
kalli
Staff
14 hours ago
@westpier and Anaideia are you still having those problems?
Anaideia
14 hours ago
I have stopped getting the 502 and 522 errors, but I am still finding some pages are very slow to load.
westpier
12 hours ago
No longer getting that error, and seems back to normal speed for me, thanks.